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#5 I believe is out of the Soldbuch which dispicts the days (dates) and locations where he was involved in close combat.

Bill,
I have one of these forms that is blank, while I agree that they were used to record close combat " I think " that they are a form that might have been " placed in ones record "... But where?

Robert

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Robert,

I don't currently have a Soldbuch with this inserted page but I'm pretty sure that it was placed in the Soldbuch which in fact is a record in itself. I searched the Soldbuch forum and found a couple of threads that talk about the entries but the photo link was no longer there. This might be a question to ask the experts on the soldbuch/wehrpass forum as to which page the form is attached to in the Soldbuch. Bill

Bill,
I have one of these forms that is blank, while I agree that they were used to record close combat " I think " that they are a form that might have been " placed in ones record "... But where?

Robert

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Here is a recent POW pickup

[Daniele C]

Robert,

I don't currently have a Soldbuch with this inserted page but I'm pretty sure that it was placed in the Soldbuch which in fact is a record in iteself. I searched the Soldbuch forum and found a couple of threads that talk about the entries but photo link was no longer there. This might be a question to ask the experts on the soldbuch/wehrpass forum as to which page the form is attached to in the Soldbuch. Bill

Hi,

I own the soldbuch where that piece of paper was in with other papers as well and a paper where the son of te soldier wrote his dad s history who was in the 4th ss polizei division from january to the end of war in 45 and states that no entry for CCC was listed in the soldbuch but i think the soldier added that himself as i heard it was usual in that period.
thanks

Dan

[W Petz]

Dan

I guess in your situation you are saying or heard that the soldier himself filled out the close combat insert which is not normally done. Usually the platoon leader or Kompanie Chef filled it out along with the unit stamp and inserted/placed it in his Soldbuch The example you presented shows that the SS Kompanie Fhr (Chief) has signed it and also stamped it with the unit stamp - Bill


(quote=lelez]Hi,

I own the soldbuch where that piece of paper was in with other papers as well and a paper where the son of te soldier wrote his dad s history who was in the 4th ss polizei division from january to the end of war in 45 and states that no entry for CCC was listed in the soldbuch but i think the soldier added that himself as i heard it was usual in that period.
thanks

Dan[/quote]


I know I had several CCC inserts that had probably been just loosely placed in a Soldbuch and became separated at some point in time because I never found the Soldbuch. Here is one that I found.

[Daniele C]

No sorry i meant that maybe the soldier awarded himself the CCC as on the paper you posted for me you can see there s the signature of some company fuhrer that wrote on that paper that was loose in the soldbuch but on the awards pages of the soldbuch there is no entry for CCC but only for a balck wound badge(i ve got the document of it that was loose inside the soldbuch as well)and an EK 2cl.(no document found with the grouping of it).
But in the paper that his son wrote about the father he said he won the CCC as well as the other entrys i just said.
thank you

Dan

[W Petz]

Dan,

Not likely that the soldier awarded himself the CCC unless he had entered it into his Soldbuch himself and you said there is no entry. It is quite possible that he could have been awarded the CCC on a document but no entry was made in his Soldbuch due to the war ending. There have been such circumstances and not all that uncommon. By the way the Close Combat insert is not an Award document but was used towards the qualification for the award of the CCC. Are you saying the soldier forged this insert??? not very likely in my opinion. Bill

No sorry i meant that maybe the soldier awarded himself the CCC as on the paper you posted for me you can see there s the signature of some company fuhrer that wrote on that paper that was loose in the soldbuch but on the awards pages of the soldbuch there is no entry for CCC but only for a balck wound badge(i ve got the document of it that was loose inside the soldbuch as well)and an EK 2cl.(no document found with the grouping of it).
But in the paper that his son wrote about the father he said he won the CCC as well as the other entrys i just said.
thank you

Dan

[Daniele C]

hmmmmm the awards i said he won in the soldbuch are dated 9 may 1945 both.It could be yes he was awarded after the war of the CCC as his son states.
But That paper that we re talking about it is just for statin what kind of CCC the soldier had to be awarded?
thanks

Dan

[W Petz]

Dan,

The insert only states what days and where the close combat took place as verified by the Kompanie Chef or Fuhrer. Checking one of my references it says the regulations or verordnungsblatt states what the qualifications were for the award of the CCC...Bronze 15 Silver 30 and Gold 50 days of close combat and if a wound badge was awarded in conjunction with the close combat it was cut to 10, 20, and 40 days respectively. Just to let you know locations like Norway, Kurland and a few other places still holding out or under their control after the surrender continued to issue awards and or make entries into Soldbuchs after the 8th of May 1945. This appears to be the case of the Soldbuch that you have in your possession. Bill

hmmmmm the awards i said he won in the soldbuch are dated 9 may 1945 both.It could be yes he was awarded after the war of the CCC as his son states.
But That paper that we re talking about it is just for statin what kind of CCC the soldier had to be awarded?
thanks

Dan

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German POW's Camp Swift Texas

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A new acquisition. Late war FJ prisoners. The FJ to your extreme left is wearing a water pattern jump smock.

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Some more German POW photos from the group posted on pages 550 thru 555.
POW Band #2

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