Panzer items?

[PANZERPIONIERE]

Jason, I am the one who posted that emblem/shield trying to define it, I have several pictures with this emblem shown,
Steve

[PANZERPIONIERE]

Here is the emblem posting, Steve

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103481&highlight=unidentified&pag e=29

[jmark]

Thanks Steve, those were exactly the photos I was thinking of. The "K" symbol suggests the shield was is use in 1941-1942.

[Akira Takiguchi]

Only if the date is known!

[jmark]

Only if the date is known!

I was under the impression that the "K" for Kleist symbol in Russia only existed while Kleist commanded 1. Panzerarmee (until November 1942). 16.Pz.Div. was under Kleist almost constantly from June 1941 until August 1942. They were in Italy in 1943 and therefore not under Kleist. The overlap between Kleist and 16.Pz.Div. is 1941-42. I don't believe the "K" symbol was used after 1943, although I stand to be corrected.

Jason

[Akira Takiguchi]

I believe that the shield sign is from one of the Armeekorps under Kleist, thus if the date is known, we can choose one (as I responded to Steve's message in the unidentified emblem thread).

[Akira Takiguchi]

(but it is also possible that the sign is from Batallionskommandeur or such)

[RUHL13]

Thanks to all for trying to find out more about this grouping, as for dates, the diaries are dated 1.44 to 3.45.
Great work
Regards,
Gary

[RUHL13]

Also this letter was in the grouping, maybe i should of put in the "Translate" thread?
It does mention Gen. Hube, can someone please translate this in short
Thank You All
Regards,
Gary

[RUHL13]

[Hank C.]

2nd paragraph, 1st page, he starts out saying he sent a letter describing he accompanied General Hube on a visit with the Fuhrer! Shortly after takeoff the airplane seems to have hit a hill/mountain, broke apart in the 30m tall trees, and crashed in 3 main parts. He was conscious of being held firm in his seat by the g-forces, then he lost consciousness. There were 10 other people in the aircraft.

I notice at the bottom of the second to last page, and top of last page, he's describing the death of a general & both pilots in an aircraft crash. Also looks like they took him to a lazarett. The second paragraph on back page describes his (I believe) injuries, which are plentiful.

The letter is to (primarily) his mother. He tells her at the end of the letter he's mentally worn out, and his hand is tired from writing. But he sends his best wishes, and hopes the letter quenches his parent's thirst for knowledge of what's going on in his life.

best
Hank

[RUHL13]

Thank You very much Hank, i also just posted it the translation thread.
All the Best,
Gary

[jmark]

So this letter is from a survivor of the plane crash that killed Hube!

On 20th April 1944, Hans Valentin Hube returned to Germany where Adolf Hitler personally awarded him the Diamonds and promoted him to generaloberst. Hans Hube was killed when his plane crashed near Hitler's residence while returning to the Eastern Front on 21st April 1944.

Source: http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=32166

Jason

[The Red Baron]

This group is simply amazing.....and it seems to just keep giving and giving!!

[Hank C.]

It does seem to be the proverbial diamond in a hill of coal...wow.

Hank