Pilot-Observer Badge with Diamonds today

[rob NL]

I don't think it's authentic, sorry.

[peter3181]

I´m sure you have good reasons for your opinion.
Why?

Peter

[peter3181]

Compare with Hermann Historica 48 nr:7784
Gen. Dessloch

Peter

[John T]

Anybody know how much the one on Rock Island sold for?

[rob NL]

I´m sure you have good reasons for your opinion.
Why?

Peter

Hi Peter,
The wing tips have a different angle as some known originals that I know of, there's also no fletching on the head.
Now, maybe there were more makers, so I could be wrong.

[peter3181]

Milch badge.

[rob NL]

Yes, I don't like that one also.

[Sepp45]

Milch badge.

Peter, that's not Milch badge, sorry.

This is Milch, from Hermann Historica.

[peter3181]

They were all handcrafted in different time periods from different goldsmiths. Over 40 of them. My wife is a master goldsmith, so I have seen differents between
her works from time to time. It is a sience. You have to find originals within the same period to be able to compare. If they then are crafted from different goldsmiths, which they were, you can be sure that they are very different.

Peter

[Sepp45]

Peter, that's not Milch badge, sorry.

This is Milch, from Hermann Historica.

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[peter3181]

Hello Sepp,

If you look at the reverse of the wings at the bagde you posted as Milch from Hermann, you will find a huge differece in Construction compared with other speciments. This just comfirm my viewes.

Peter

[peter3181]

Do you see what I mean?

Peter

[peter3181]

Hartmanns original.

[peter3181]

Taken from Wikipedia

" The first recipients were General Walther Wever, Chief of the Luftwaffe General Staff and General der Flieger Erhard Milch, State Secretary of the Reichsluftfahrtministerium on 11 November 1935."

The last recipients was "Martin Harlinghausen, 17 April 1945"


That means that the decoration was in production between 1935 to 1944-45. It was made from a various number of producers from Wienna to Berlin. Under this time period the number of goldsmiths varied in every Company. The decoration was HANDCRAFTED, that means it varied from speciment to specimen within the Company. If you add that it was different companies, different craftman, different timeperiod, you will find a much bigger range of different craftmanshift compared with for instance with the KC of the iron cross.

The KC was made of pre frabricated pieces put together by a craftmen, securing that the differece between the pieces was as small as possible. Despite that, the difference between the companies producing the KC is considerable. Despite the fact that the companies producing the KC had the same requirements from the ODR.

Do you still wonder why there are a difference between the handcrafted speciments?

My advice, if you´r not married to a craftman/women, visit a goldsmith.

Peter

[peter3181]

It´s no afence against Sepp 45.

It´s against all the "know how" in the forum.

Peter