Juncker Glider

[Thomas Durante]

Hi Karsten,

I was thinking it was original central barrel because of the gaps, but I do see what you are saying about the thickness being a bit different. However, it sometimes appears like this when the barrels aren't aligned properly. If Alex was to rotate the pin back closed, the barrels may align better. Only way to tell is to rotate and see. If it is indeed thicker than the outer barrels, then I think you are right and they are different tubes used.

I don't understand your question about the hingepin? But like Mike says, its extra length does seem a bit odd for a Juncker badge, but its not excessive if you look at the overall reverse shot IMO.

Tom

[Alex Bolotnikov]

Here are some additional photos of the catch:

[Alex Bolotnikov]

And here is the main problem:

[Karsten S]

Hi Guys

Here is another Juncker badge with the space between the pin barrel and the hinge barrels. Not as sloppy but still there.
My experience is that Juncker was sloppy with their set-up´s, but this glider is worse than usual.

Tom, what I mean is, have you see evidence that Juncker used the cut-out mid-section for the pins?
I would have thought that this cut-out section of the barrel was bended or dis-formed by the saw? Sometimes the saw-marks on the wreath is lining up with the hinges, but just as often they are not, which to me would indicate that the cut-out section was useless.
I am more of the impression that the pin was soldered at one end of a long tube of barrel, and then cut of in the approx the right width and this is why we so often see individual widths?

Best Regards

Karsten

[Karsten S]

Alex,

Thanks for the additional images. IMO the soldering is 100 % original an absolutely no repair on both the hinge-barrels and the catch.

I know that Thomas alias "SILVER" has the same ROAG as mine with the same sloppy hinge. Maybe we can ge him to post it here?

Best Regards

Karsten

[Silver]

Hallo Guys,

@Alex: A Top Glider!! Congrats!!


I'm still in the office and have only these pics from the J4 ROAG here!

best
Thomas

[mmiller]

HI Alex (and the rest of the 'Glider Crew')!

Im my opinion, a very nice reresentative example (textbook) of a Juncker Glider Abz.

I tend to agree, that the main pin, and the hingepin, are probably not original to the posted example. For me, a little 'slop' is acceptable in the 'fit' (tightnerss) of the main pin. Also, the brass hingepin looks too wide, and loose. That could indicate a repair. I'm not sure yet about the catch, but on quick glance, it is either original or very cleanly repaired.

All that said, you got a 'keeper' there. It's Juncker. It's 'clean'. It's tombak. It's maker marked. And it's yours!

Looking through my saved images, I think I see a match between your example and one posted (and probably owned) by Frank H.

Regards,
Mark

[Alex Bolotnikov]

Thank you guys! Was trying to persuade myself that the pin is ok but your posts confirmed my bad feelings Too shiny for a worn badge, different diameter of the barrel and pin barrel, too thin hinge pin... Anyway it's still a Juncker Glider

Now want to be 100% sure about the catch. Can't find any signs of repairs but the shape and material look unusual to me... Will try to make better pics tomorrow.

And yes this badge was some time ago in Frank H. collection.

Best regards,
Alex

[frankscholz]

Hello Alex,

congrats for thís rare Badge.

IMO is there no repairs , catch hinge and pin also OK.

only i think the badge was strongly cleaned


here is also badge with the same long pin.

http://70.87.163.50/forums/showthrea...ghlight=glider



Best Regards

Frank

[Marc Garlasco]

Is it this badge or another?

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ghlight=glider

[mmiller]

Marc,

Yea. I have the same image. Actually, I have about 8 or 9 all of thatsame series.

Mark

[Alex Bolotnikov]

Is it this badge or another?

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ghlight=glider

Yes it's the same badge. 5 years ago it was much brighter

[Marc Garlasco]

AMAZING what the atmosphere does to a badge that was kept in a case...

[mmiller]

AMAZING what the atmosphere does to a badge that was kept in a case...

Maybe it has been reinstated, and being worn in the 'field'! Are there some Glider 'competitions' taking place, for SpecOps insertions into Afghanistan!