I can recognize Juncker eagle because of the very specific way how Jucker workers were hand finishing them, however i was wondering, why JMME was fooling around with their maker mark? Was it random or maybe was this done on purpose?...
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hi RobertOriginally posted by robert60446I can recognize Juncker eagle because of the very specific way how Jucker workers were hand finishing them, however i was wondering, why JMME was fooling around with their maker mark? Was it random or maybe was this done on purpose?...
I have the same question in my mind as well, but I guess it was done on purpose. maybe...... I guess....that would be easier to distinguish.Comment
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Well,I think IMME and Jmme are the same..,there's a quite unknown typical Imme pilotbadge with the open space between the claws which is marked IMME,no Juncker pattern or parts involved..,quite rare,think I only saw 4 or 5 sofar.
As far as we know these are genuine.
The eagle on that one could be a sister of the typical Jmme RO/AG eagle..same pattern head and typical claws..,probably designed by the same person IMO.
and then there's the Jmme & Sohn stamp ofcourse..,maybe there're 2 versions too,but I didn't go that far..
Let's find out...
Jos.Last edited by Jos Le Conté; 05-06-2006, 07:19 PM.Comment
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With 7 pages of posts and 830 views I guess we generated enough noise about JMME made badges. Now their value easy will go up @ Detlev by 10%!..
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But seriously, very interesting discussion, JMME Company was for ong time on my radar, still I think it would be great to see more of their badges, maybe we can learn even more…Last edited by robert60446; 05-06-2006, 07:20 PM.Comment
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Let's not forget that "J" and "I" are often switched in the German language.
Shouldn't be any doubt that IMME and JMME are the same company.
Here's one for you....Comment
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Tim,Originally posted by Tim Calvert
I'm not doubting that they were the same company, i was just wondering about the reason why they were "playing around" with their company logo...Comment
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Yes, let's not overlook that '68'. If the eagle portends to be Buntmetal, that 68 creates a big conflict for me. If the eagle is Kriegsmetal, then the 68 could fit in the timeline of the late war Junckers. BUT, the SW68 , appears on the Juncker zink Flaks and Air Gunners. Have we ever seen an authentic example Juncker pilot badge before with the SW68?
Mark
Originally posted by Jos Le ContéOh,it's a SW68,I didn't remember that...
A new problem for some..,I'd better hide..
Jos."You can check out any time you like ..... But you can never leave....."Comment
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Is the buyer of this badge, a member of our forum?Originally posted by mmillerYes, let's not overlook that '68'. If the eagle portends to be Buntmetal, that 68 creates a big conflict for me. If the eagle is Kriegsmetal, then the 68 could fit in the timeline of the late war Junckers. BUT, the SW68 , appears on the Juncker zink Flaks and Air Gunners. Have we ever seen an authentic example Juncker pilot badge before with the SW68?
Mark
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A question,Mark....,not a questionmark...
What do you think about the nickle versus tombak question,Mark ?
About the 68...,once there was a switch to feinzink/kriegsmetal and the 68 mark was introduced...
Could it have been that some buntmetal badges were stamped with that mark first ?
I've seen a few stamps in buntmetal badges..,I don't know what to think..,those badges looked rather good..
I know,some don't like the stamp at all,this makes it more complicated..
Jos.Last edited by Jos Le Conté; 05-06-2006, 07:56 PM.Comment
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Hi Robert,
I agree with you. I only posted that for Indy's sake. Check Post # 90.
The 68 mark appears to be on a J2 which by current theories is too early.
I don't have a problem with the 68 mark on zinc badges that are otherwise correct. This one looks good to me.....if the mark is the same as the double marked badge then.....??Comment
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Here's the front for your records.
You can see that it's a typical J3 but made from zinc.
Pics courtesy of D. Niemann.Comment
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Tim,hence my question..
Might it have been that they did a try-out first ?
Stupid question..
I can't believe all those 68 stamping in buntmetal badges was done postwar..,it's the right stamp in the right badge but the wrong combination..,plus it's not easy to stamp a completed badge..!
The double marker that is..
If there were Assmann badges with the 68 mark I would say yes,wrong choice,but all was done in Juncker badges..
If it would mean the whole badge is fake then,then there's a problem..
Without that mark or with the right mark this would mean we've a genuine badge,'cause it looks right..except for the mark..
Jos.Last edited by Jos Le Conté; 05-06-2006, 08:25 PM.Comment
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Tim, hardware on posted by you badge Screams "Juncker", I have no doubt that this is original Juncker product.Originally posted by Tim CalvertComment
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The finishing screams Juncker to me as well. Looks like Juncker made these and JMME bought them for sale to their customers. Great thread BTW.
jeffLooking for a 30 '06 Chauchat magazine.Comment
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