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    Blockade Runners badge

    Obtained from A dealer in Munich last weekend.
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    #2
    Unfortunately a common fake.

    Best regards,
    —Norm

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      #3
      Norm , thank you for your view, I really should have been more careful, better knowing. Ah sh1t, should have known better. Will contact and see if I can get my money back , first time caught out. Lesson learned.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Norm F View Post
        Unfortunately a common fake.

        Best regards,
        —Norm
        I agree.
        Cheers,
        Hubert

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          #5
          I am unaccustomed to being " caught out" and it's not a great feeling, I am usually extremely cautious and do almost all buying on line checking out in advance of making a purchase.
          This was bought more with the eyes and not with the brain, 350 euros the cost of not sticking to my own rules and checks - buying outside of my own comfort zone.
          Thanks for the heads up gents , when I got home and had a look at reference books (Weber & Skora) I had my doubts - one is better knowing .
          Will go back to the dealer and see what they are willing / unwilling to do.

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            #6
            Weber & Skora---English version I hope.

            John

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              #7
              You hoped correctly John .
              The reverse patterns do not match , at best they are similar , Eduardo pointed out to me in an email that the second row from bottom porthole count is wrong , should be seven , it is only six.

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                #8
                That makes Norm and I happy.

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                  #9
                  All of that and you need to look no further than the font in a side by side comparison with a period example.

                  This example is a very common fake from the same source.

                  John

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                    #10
                    Reflecting on my own recent experience I found this thread which has some sound advice in it.
                    Comparing and contrasting with the period example was certainly enlightening.

                    http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=931038

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                      #11
                      Is it safe to assume that all maker examples of the blockade runners badge have 7 portholes on the second row from the bottom? At a recent gun show I viewed an unmarked badge with a needle pin that had 6 portholes.

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                        #12
                        I got a refund from the dealer on this item, the gent who confirms items are period for this firm is of the view this piece is a period item.
                        Given the views of collectors given here and having looked at modern reference books ( which made me think there was a problem in the first instance) , I am inclined to disagree with his opinion .

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                          #13
                          Well, you can direct him to this thread. All he or anyone has to do is a simple side-by-side comparison with an original Schwerin to see the differences between this common fake and an original.

                          Best regards,
                          ---Norm
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Mark Stevens View Post
                            Is it safe to assume that all maker examples of the blockade runners badge have 7 portholes on the second row from the bottom? At a recent gun show I viewed an unmarked badge with a needle pin that had 6 portholes.
                            Hi Mark,

                            That's almost correct. All makers' Blockade Breaker badges had 7 portholes except for the Steinhauer & Lück version (upon which the "Cave Creek" fake being discussed here was based).

                            All the others (Schwerin, Meybauer, Deumer, Mayer, Foerster & Barth and A.G.M.u.K.) had 7 portholes in that second row from the bottom.

                            Best regards,
                            ---Norm
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                            Last edited by Norm F; 11-06-2017, 09:35 PM.

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                              #15
                              Norm , I did consider that but did not expect the " expert" to say he was wrong, I think they need a new " expert".
                              ( Misplaced faith on their part and no doubt a good wee earner for their " expert").
                              If anything this thread serves a number of purposes , one to show the stark difference between a period and a reproduction badge and more importantly to show the pit falls of letting heart ruling your head.
                              For my party an error of judgement I will not be repeating.

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