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    U-Boat,Sub Clasp & CCC bz for opinions

    gentlemen,are these good or bad?..I will say that I like them,,,
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      #3
      Hi,
      U-boat clasp in silver is known fake unfortunately. It is known as 'A over C fake'.
      Cheers,
      Hubert

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        #4
        I agree with Hubert, the U-Boat clasp is an obvious fake. The images of the RK U-boat badge are inadequate to make a call but the colour is strange. You need proper photos in natural light of both obverse and reverse and closeups of the catch and hinge to get a useful opinion on these since they're a favourite target of fakers.

        The CCC should be posted in the Heer section for an opinion.

        Best regards,
        ---Norm

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          #5
          Originally posted by Norm F View Post
          The CCC should be posted in the Heer section for an opinion.
          I just noticed that Mike (waffendude) already posted better photos of the CCC in the Heer section: http://wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/s...d.php?t=911020

          Best regards,
          ---Norm

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            #6
            Is the reason the clasp is a fake because it is in tombac and the letters on the reverse has been evened out?

            In other words the reproduction is better than the original?

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              #7
              Hi Gary,

              Yes, the lettering is the biggest giveaway -- not only because of the evenness but also because the rows of the letters are aligned differently from originals. And as you say, the base metal is incorrect - neither zinc nor Tombak. Also the catch "crimp" is a sham and the catch is actually soldered into a cast crimp mound.

              You can see more details on this type of fake here:
              http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...62#post7458562
              and there are examples in the Fakes Gallery as well.

              Best regards,
              ---Norm

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                #8
                Heres a few other,,, better photos.
                These are not mine
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                    From these photos, the RK U-boat badge looks okay but the cast-in hinge block is cracked. Not sure if that will be stable for opening the pin. Best to inquire first and ask for for a pin-open photo if considering purchasing it.

                    No surprises with the U-Boat clasp though -- still a fake.

                    Best regards,
                    ---Norm

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Norm F View Post
                      From these photos, the RK U-boat badge looks okay but the cast-in hinge block is cracked.
                      I agree.
                      Cheers,
                      Hubert

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                        #12
                        Uboat and CCC are fine originals
                        Kind regards,
                        Giel

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