U-Boat,Sub Clasp & CCC bz for opinions

[militarymania]

gentlemen,are these good or bad?..I will say that I like them,,,

[militarymania]

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[BubbaZ]

Hi,
U-boat clasp in silver is known fake unfortunately. It is known as 'A over C fake'.
Cheers,
Hubert

[Norm F]

I agree with Hubert, the U-Boat clasp is an obvious fake. The images of the RK U-boat badge are inadequate to make a call but the colour is strange. You need proper photos in natural light of both obverse and reverse and closeups of the catch and hinge to get a useful opinion on these since they're a favourite target of fakers.

The CCC should be posted in the Heer section for an opinion.

Best regards,
---Norm

[Norm F]

The CCC should be posted in the Heer section for an opinion.

I just noticed that Mike (waffendude) already posted better photos of the CCC in the Heer section: http://wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/s...d.php?t=911020

Best regards,
---Norm

[Gary Symonds]

Is the reason the clasp is a fake because it is in tombac and the letters on the reverse has been evened out?

In other words the reproduction is better than the original?

[Norm F]

Hi Gary,

Yes, the lettering is the biggest giveaway -- not only because of the evenness but also because the rows of the letters are aligned differently from originals. And as you say, the base metal is incorrect - neither zinc nor Tombak. Also the catch "crimp" is a sham and the catch is actually soldered into a cast crimp mound.

You can see more details on this type of fake here:
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...62#post7458562
and there are examples in the Fakes Gallery as well.

Best regards,
---Norm

[waffendude]

Heres a few other,,, better photos.
These are not mine

[waffendude]

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[Norm F]

From these photos, the RK U-boat badge looks okay but the cast-in hinge block is cracked. Not sure if that will be stable for opening the pin. Best to inquire first and ask for for a pin-open photo if considering purchasing it.

No surprises with the U-Boat clasp though -- still a fake.

Best regards,
---Norm

[BubbaZ]

From these photos, the RK U-boat badge looks okay but the cast-in hinge block is cracked.

I agree.
Cheers,
Hubert

[Giel VW]

Uboat and CCC are fine originals