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    #16
    at 2nd glance its not the tone its how even it is
    Here is mine
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      #17
      Wrong!

      Giel/Alex,

      Your dark bronze theory is not supported by imperical data as all/most manufacturers changesd their finishes and given the natural reaction to time/air, can result in different shades.

      Giel ---

      Every numbered badge on your Facebook page has a different finish---that would make some of them bad/refinished?


      Mike

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        #18
        Finish

        Dear Scott,

        Thanks for posting, but your badge has been heavily cleaned and no longer has any of the original finish remaining. I think you are comparing "apples and oranges".


        Also, the die flaws in the eagle's talons clearly make your a later produced badge,

        Respectfully,

        Mike



        Originally posted by scott3000 View Post
        at 2nd glance its not the tone its how even it is [opHere is mine
        Last edited by Michael Everett; 12-29-2013, 02:48 PM. Reason: Spelling

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          #19
          [QUOTE=Michael Everett;6214741]Dear Scott,

          Thanks for posting, but your badge has been heavily cleaned and no longer has any of the original finish remaining. I think you are comparing "apples and oranges".

          Michael I think the lack of finish has more to do with Old age than it does cleaning

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            #20
            Originally posted by Michael Everett View Post

            Giel ---

            Every numbered badge on your Facebook page has a different finish---that would make some of them bad/refinished?


            Mike
            I did never say numbered badges could't have different kinds of finishes. I just reacted to your quote from Philippe's book.

            Yours is just a finish I have never seen before, that's all. If you believe it is ok well than discussion closed. Thought I could just share with you what troubled me.
            Kind regards,
            Giel

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              #21
              Thanks

              Dear Giel,

              Thank you for posting.

              You do us all a great service by challenging our conventional wisdom.

              Please take my comment as a compliment.


              Mike

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                #22
                Jfs

                Gents,

                Two unissued JFS CCCs, note different shades/colors.

                Mike
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                  #23
                  Hi Mike

                  Indeed two of the JFS color variations, the dark and the gold/brown one are also to be seen on the numbered assault badges. But take a look at the bronze of your badge and you will never find a match with an other JFS combat award.
                  Kind regards,
                  Giel

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by scott3000 View Post
                    at 2nd glance its not the tone its how even it is
                    Here is mine
                    Scott,

                    your badge needs a good wash in warm soap water with a mild plain soap like "Sunlight" and an old worn tooth bush.

                    I do not think it is as worn/ faded as it looks. I think that there is a lot of encrusted old polish around the oakleaves, acorns and tracks on the tank.

                    It would be interesting to see how it comes up

                    Chris

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                      #25
                      Never

                      Giel,

                      One thing I have learned in this hobby is never to say never!

                      The early "Juncker" numbered badges are a classic example of a "variation" that was considered a "reproduction" and not until very recently identified as original and much rarer than the JFS produced specimens.

                      I guess you and I will just have to disagree once again, but if you are happy with your knowledge base than I wish you all the best in the coming new year!

                      MIKE




                      Originally posted by Giel VW View Post
                      Hi Mike

                      Indeed two of the JFS color variations, the dark and the gold/brown one are also to be seen on the numbered assault badges. But take a look at the bronze of your badge and you will never find a match with an other JFS combat award.

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