50 Bronze Panzer 2013

[scott3000]

at 2nd glance its not the tone its how even it is
Here is mine

[Michael Everett]

Wrong!

Giel/Alex,

Your dark bronze theory is not supported by imperical data as all/most manufacturers changesd their finishes and given the natural reaction to time/air, can result in different shades.

Giel ---

Every numbered badge on your Facebook page has a different finish---that would make some of them bad/refinished?


Mike

[Michael Everett]

Finish

Dear Scott,

Thanks for posting, but your badge has been heavily cleaned and no longer has any of the original finish remaining. I think you are comparing "apples and oranges".


Also, the die flaws in the eagle's talons clearly make your a later produced badge,

Respectfully,

Mike

at 2nd glance its not the tone its how even it is [opHere is mine

[scott3000]

[QUOTE=Michael Everett;6214741]Dear Scott,

Thanks for posting, but your badge has been heavily cleaned and no longer has any of the original finish remaining. I think you are comparing "apples and oranges".

Michael I think the lack of finish has more to do with Old age than it does cleaning

[Giel VW]

Giel ---

Every numbered badge on your Facebook page has a different finish---that would make some of them bad/refinished?


Mike

I did never say numbered badges could't have different kinds of finishes. I just reacted to your quote from Philippe's book.

Yours is just a finish I have never seen before, that's all. If you believe it is ok well than discussion closed. Thought I could just share with you what troubled me.

[Michael Everett]

Thanks

Dear Giel,

Thank you for posting.

You do us all a great service by challenging our conventional wisdom.

Please take my comment as a compliment.


Mike

[Michael Everett]

Jfs

Gents,

Two unissued JFS CCCs, note different shades/colors.

Mike

[Giel VW]

Hi Mike

Indeed two of the JFS color variations, the dark and the gold/brown one are also to be seen on the numbered assault badges. But take a look at the bronze of your badge and you will never find a match with an other JFS combat award.

[90th Light]

at 2nd glance its not the tone its how even it is
Here is mine

Scott,

your badge needs a good wash in warm soap water with a mild plain soap like "Sunlight" and an old worn tooth bush.

I do not think it is as worn/ faded as it looks. I think that there is a lot of encrusted old polish around the oakleaves, acorns and tracks on the tank.

It would be interesting to see how it comes up

Chris

[Michael Everett]

Never

Giel,

One thing I have learned in this hobby is never to say never!

The early "Juncker" numbered badges are a classic example of a "variation" that was considered a "reproduction" and not until very recently identified as original and much rarer than the JFS produced specimens.

I guess you and I will just have to disagree once again, but if you are happy with your knowledge base than I wish you all the best in the coming new year!

MIKE

Hi Mike

Indeed two of the JFS color variations, the dark and the gold/brown one are also to be seen on the numbered assault badges. But take a look at the bronze of your badge and you will never find a match with an other JFS combat award.