Dear All,
When I posted this bronze daisy PAB before, I mentioned that I had serious reservations about it, and feared that it was a clever new fake.
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ad.php?t=44306
I am convinced that it is a new fake of the daisy PAB. Philippe has it in hand now, and he agrees. This thing looks very good in pictures, but once you handle it the differences jump out at you. As I mentioned before, the biggest obvious differences are in the dimensions. This one measures 59.1mm x 40.5mm and weighs 21.6g. The dimensions of other zinc semi-hollow daisy PABs that I have measured are:
60.0mm x 41.8mm 29.8g
60.7mm x 41.4mm 30.7g
60.1mm x 41.5mm 30.3g
Philippe made a great image with this badge in the center, flanked by two good daisy PABs. The size difference is readily visible. Philippe, can you post the "triplet" front and rear views?
While the obverse includes some of the recognizable details of a daisy PAB (such as the cross hatching by the eagle's legs), there is a general blurring of details in some areas. Note the oak leaf at the 4 o'clock position in the wreath. Note also the pitted holes just under the left track; this badge was probably cast. One of the distinguishing features is the "hole" where the wreath meets the left side of the tank. Normally I would accept this as a finisher perhaps being over-zealous during the hand finishing process, but a couple of other identical examples have also been noted.
The reverse also has some details of good daisy PABs, but the contours are generally "softer" than on a daisy PAB. When you handle it, you can also tell that the base material isn't zinc, but some shiny white metal.
The pin is also bent incorrectly to form the foot at the hinge end. See the following posts.
To my mind, this is indeed a clever new fake. Please be on the lookout for examples like this. I don't know the source; I found this one at a militaria show in Orlando, FL in February. I fear some others like it have been posted on this Forum.
Regards,
Greg
When I posted this bronze daisy PAB before, I mentioned that I had serious reservations about it, and feared that it was a clever new fake.
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ad.php?t=44306
I am convinced that it is a new fake of the daisy PAB. Philippe has it in hand now, and he agrees. This thing looks very good in pictures, but once you handle it the differences jump out at you. As I mentioned before, the biggest obvious differences are in the dimensions. This one measures 59.1mm x 40.5mm and weighs 21.6g. The dimensions of other zinc semi-hollow daisy PABs that I have measured are:
60.0mm x 41.8mm 29.8g
60.7mm x 41.4mm 30.7g
60.1mm x 41.5mm 30.3g
Philippe made a great image with this badge in the center, flanked by two good daisy PABs. The size difference is readily visible. Philippe, can you post the "triplet" front and rear views?
While the obverse includes some of the recognizable details of a daisy PAB (such as the cross hatching by the eagle's legs), there is a general blurring of details in some areas. Note the oak leaf at the 4 o'clock position in the wreath. Note also the pitted holes just under the left track; this badge was probably cast. One of the distinguishing features is the "hole" where the wreath meets the left side of the tank. Normally I would accept this as a finisher perhaps being over-zealous during the hand finishing process, but a couple of other identical examples have also been noted.
The reverse also has some details of good daisy PABs, but the contours are generally "softer" than on a daisy PAB. When you handle it, you can also tell that the base material isn't zinc, but some shiny white metal.
The pin is also bent incorrectly to form the foot at the hinge end. See the following posts.
To my mind, this is indeed a clever new fake. Please be on the lookout for examples like this. I don't know the source; I found this one at a militaria show in Orlando, FL in February. I fear some others like it have been posted on this Forum.
Regards,
Greg
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