Josef 'Sepp' Allerberger... Sniper Badge(Niemann).

[Jeff V]

This whole group stinks to high heaven.
best wishes,
jeff

[jacquesf]

Well someone took a shot at it. I wonder if they used sniping software? Jacques

[jambobbyb]

Hmmm i have to say Mr Niemanns wording doesnt describe any of these pieces as being war time just from the estate of Allerberg, The devil is in the detail gents!

[Seiler]

Hi ,yes ,is still alive.

Phil.

I think passed away.
Lot of controversy about him and his claimed RK,timing,number of kills claimed
not verified by Records etc etc Do a search .Been done before.
Definitely NOT Germanys highest scorer.Others,one of who WAS RK winner.
Seiler

[Opio]

There is no proof this was A.´s stuff: The signed fotos are around, for cheap money.
Allerberger wore a EKII only, thats correct - but if they cannot get him a KC, how should they find the ribbon only in spriing of 1945, to add to the EKII???

Please read the Niemann description...

[Gran Sasso]

Please read the Niemann description...

I do neither look at this site, nore buy there ...

What does he say there?

[Opio]

I do neither look at this site, nore buy there ...

What does he say there?

Niemann says that the ribbon is a modern addition.

[ardennes1944]

Yes, a fantastic group, but is it real?:

The photos:

Hi

the photo of Allerberger with the RK is not the original photo.
Here the original photo .




Phil.

[general1900]

Phil is right. At the book J.Allerberger does NOT wear the RK in this particular photo. Also in the book (at least the edition i have) there is a photo of his award document to the sniper badge (among others except the RK) 3rd class with the badge itself. The badge is different than the one shown on Niemann and Allerberger never wore it as far as i remember (for obvious reasons).

Regards,
Fotis

[Robin Lumsden]

Just a personal opinion on the book here................not on the items under discussion.

To me, the Allerberger book reads like a Sven Hassel book.

How much of it is actually true, and how much of it is sensationalist fiction?

[m11011963]

Hello,

i think that this Konvolut ist not real from Allerberger.

2006 i visited him and he said that he became only a Document
with all 3 steps from the sniper badge but no Badges. The Division had to this time no badges. Only the 3.rd step he got later or not ?


regards
Mike

[Opio]

Be thankful you missed out on this piece. The sniper badge is a well known fake produced in Germany in the 80's. Documented in Cyrus Lee's book on reproductions.
best wishes,
jeff

You say that this sniper badge is fake, but you don´t say: Because....
You only say that it is fake because in a book put this, but you don´t post photo of the book because you don´t want.
Can you compare this sniper badge with an original example so that we know what are the differences.

No other collector's opinion on this controversial badge??

[m11011963]

Hello,

in many books you can see this badge as a reproduction.

You can see a good story about the Sniper Badges with pictures
in the "International Militaria Magazin Juni-Juli 2005"

best
Mike

[jacquesf]

Original badges

[Steve T]

The Cyrus Lee reference Soldat V.11 that Jeff refers to above.. '70's fakes.