Estand IAB & Krim Discussion

[STEVIEBOY491]

Evening Gents,

Just got in from work and discovered that a discussion needs opening up on an IAB and Krim that I have fro sale on the Estand. The link to it is here:

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=332364

I will post the pictures of the two items after my tea. The IAB is already in the post to the new buyer, but I will contact him via PM and inform him of the link. A full refund will be ready if required.

The Krim is under offer for the full price by a member who I am led to believe is a bit of an expert on these.

Speak shortly.

Steve

[STEVIEBOY491]

Gents,

After recent dodgy activities on the site I do not want to be branded with the same brush. Even though the item is in the post I have given an immediate full refund.
Hopefully if the badge is good, the buyer will be kind enough to pay me again!!

Regards

Steve

[Pascal H.]

Hi Steve,
I can only speak for the Krim shield and that is 100% original.

KR
Pascal

[STEVIEBOY491]

Thanks Pascal,

That's one worry over.

Regards

Steve

[Eric N]

I too believe the IAB to be a fake. It looks like a copy of a BH Mayer IAB, but the obverse is soft with very poor details (see the acorns, eagle, and rifle) and there is no cut-out between the rifle and swastica. To its credit, the catch looks like the correct type, however the reverse looks soft as well -- this may just be the picture though.

I've attached a link to a recent thread (posted by Hakan81) of what a BH Mayer IAB should look like.

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=332165

IMO, no comparison between the details expected of an original and the one on the estand for sale.

Eric

[STEVIEBOY491]

Gents, in my defence it really felt good in the hand. Here are the pictures that I have

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The back

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Hinge 1

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Hinge 2

[STEVIEBOY491]

Catch

[Eric N]

Steve,

No defense necessary. I have been fooled more times than I like to admit. As for your IAB, perhaps it is an original pattern form a different maker and all will turn out well.

Others will soon contribute to this discussion.

Eric

[callmemeier]

hope this helps

greetings,i had this one which was declared a fake by this forum.i was informed the mayer repo is one of the best ones out there.i do not have the expierience to judge the first posted IAB,but hopefully i can add something of use to the discusion.jon UPDATE; this is what i get for not paying attention.please use this to compair as a real one,i pulled the wrong scan.my apologies.interestingly enough,i returned the fake one i meant to post for a refund to the dealer and he sold it again.i promice to not post from work again(except for "ill take it!").at least i didnt delete everything like we hate.sorry again.

[callmemeier]

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[stewy]

Hi Steve,i believe the IAB's a copy. The rifle detail's lacking,a lot of the recesses have rounded edges. Sorry. Everybody knows you're a stand up guy,your good reputaion remains intact IMO. Stewy

[Tim B.]

Here's the link that applies to the Krim (last page).

Dogout Krim Shield...need opinions - Wehrmacht-Awards.com Militaria Forums

Tim