PAB twins please give me your opinions

[uwemue]

Hi there,

I found these two PAB`s, sorry for the bad pics, now I don`t have daylight.
Is it possible to identify the maker. I have an idea, but a little doubt is there.

Thanks

Uwe

[uwemue]

the bronce brother

[Don D.]

Same fake as shown today in this thread: http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=183850

And it is in the fake forum also.

[Chet Sowersby]

Don is 110% correct. Fakes.....

Chet

[Peter Wiking]

More junk to the fake folder.

Peter

[uwemue]

The hell,

I have for both of them a positive COA from Detlev Niemann. The two pieces are from a friend, he bought it some years ago from a dealer in Germany, last year he sent the badges to Detlev for a COA. In next days I will post the COA here !

[Chet Sowersby]

Well, that will be intesting to see when the time comes. This type of PAB has been considered a fake for a long time. On top of that I've never seen this type of PAB for sale on Detlev's site and yet they can be found just about anyplace at any given time.

Chet

[uwemue]

I will scan the COA`s in the next days and post them here. For sure I had a look on the COA`s today !

[Peter Wiking]

Uwe.
Why so angry? You got a negative reaction on these badges at another forum and got angry there as well? What is more important to you. The words and wisdom from collector friends or a piece of paper?

Peter

[Peter Wiking]

Here is the fake Don pointed to:

[Peter Wiking]

Reverse:

[VonLuger]

common and long time known fake-Detlev been wrong before, he's human-I've seen him pull badges on his update after forum members point out the badge is no good....

theres a place in Nevada that has 100's of these for sale, believed to be made in Austria recently-or thats how the story goes

If you see an eagle head/face like what Peter just posted-RUN

[Don D.]

common and long time known fake-Detlev been wrong before, he's human-I've seen him pull badges on his update after forum members point out the badge is no good....

theres a place in Nevada that has 100's of these for sale, believed to be made in Austria recently-or thats how the story goes

If you see an eagle head/face like what Peter just posted-RUN

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=183882

[Panzer Rob]

the bronce brother

Wow, that's a damn good fake To the novice (me ) the obverse and reverse of the badge are extremely convincing. I'll admit that when I first saw the pictures I didn't know that this was a fake. The hinge and pin caught my eye, but man...

Rob

[VonLuger]

Thanks Don, Bingo thats what I was thinking of.