NSDAP Ribbon Bar- ALL 3 NSDAP Decorations

[der-hase-fee]

Thanks Gary


Pierce,

Here is a 15 & 10yr device from another one of my ribbon bars.

Regards,
AB.

Andrew, great close up shots, thanks. Are you sure they are the real deal ? I don't see much detail on these (head, chest feathers, wreath). Am I getting confused ?

[luftkrieg]

Gentlemen,

I thank you all for these excellent pics and advice...the close-up shots really are a big help. Having seen so many devices i think we have started quite a distinctive thread here.

Best regards to all!
Pierce

[Tom Yanacek]

Many thanks for these der-hase-free.

Here they are for those who are not members on GMIC Forum.

From studying all these devices i now know what i do not like about the bar i opened the thread with....the eagles heads...they are an odd shape and completely lack any detail. This is a major difference i notice between this one and the originals posted.

Kind regards
Pierce

Hi Pierce,

The eight-place NSDAP/SS ribbon bar you show at the bottom of post #22 is a fake. It is one of those classic "Ohio fraud bars." That bar is currently for sale on the Summer Vacation Militaria website.

Here is a link to the reverse:

http://www.svmilitaria.com/images/21065c.JPG

And here is the front:

http://www.svmilitaria.com/images/21065a.JPG

Best regards,
Tom

[andrewb]

Andrew, great close up shots, thanks. Are you sure they are the real deal ? I don't see much detail on these (head, chest feathers, wreath). Am I getting confused ?

The bar has some wear on it and much of the silver finish on the 15yr device has gone. It came from the same seller as my SS and 3 NDSAP device bar. I see no problems with it. Here is a full photo.

Regards,
AB.

[der-hase-fee]

The bar has some wear on it and much of the silver finish on the 15yr device has gone. It came from the same seller as my SS and 3 NDSAP device bar. I see no problems with it. Here is a full photo.

Regards,
AB.

I may need to reset my gauge as to what level of detail to expect. But before doing that, I'd like some more opinions, please.

[Gary B]

The bar has some wear on it and much of the silver finish on the 15yr device has gone. It came from the same seller as my SS and 3 NDSAP device bar. I see no problems with it. Here is a full photo.

Regards,
AB.

Andrew,

I notice tha tthe spange is the early 1st pattern....again very ice. You really picked up some super bars from him.

Gary B

[luftkrieg]

Yes Andrew's bar is excellent and totally original in my opinion.

Best regards
Pierce

[luftkrieg]

Hi Pierce,

The eight-place NSDAP/SS ribbon bar you show at the bottom of post #22 is a fake. It is one of those classic "Ohio fraud bars." That bar is currently for sale on the Summer Vacation Militaria website.

Here is a link to the reverse:

http://www.svmilitaria.com/images/21065c.JPG

And here is the front:

http://www.svmilitaria.com/images/21065a.JPG

Best regards,
Tom

Thanks for posting these for others to see Tom.

The minute i saw the reverse i knew straight away it was an Ohio!! A shame that this bar is now on hold for some unsuspecting collector for nearly $300!!

Here is a close-up if the devices....

Best regards
Pierce

[der-hase-fee]

I don't see much detail on these (head, chest feathers, wreath).

I may need to reset my gauge as to what level of detail to expect.

I have been comparing devices, and found quite many differences. Some have detail where others don't and vice versa.

But then again, the devices are quite small: The wreath measures only 1 cm in diameter. They are from thin material and may have easily suffered from wear.

I am not sure they would draw attention from fakers. At the bottom line, I am less suspicious of the devices now than I was back then.

[luftkrieg]

I have been comparing devices, and found quite many differences. Some have detail where others don't and vice versa.

But then again, the devices are quite small: The wreath measures only 1 cm in diameter. They are from thin material and may have easily suffered from wear.

I am not sure they would draw attention from fakers. At the bottom line, I am less suspicious of the devices now than I was back then.

Looking good!

[all1knew]

Hello Pierce,


I agree with most of all the ocmments here and you did get the "alte Hase" Opinion. I have posted a few long service ribbon bars (they are at home and I am in the office) I don't like the wash and detail on the eagles, the wear on the ribbon is not congruent with the wear, aging, on the frame.


Here a few of mine that I found posted here earlier...

is that a life saving medal ribbon in there? Silesia perhaps?

William Kramer

[all1knew]

also interesting to note is how AndrewB's ribbon bar (from stogieman) uses a similar backing as to the other with all three decorations shown by tyanacek


http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...8&postcount=19

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...4&postcount=20

William Kramer

[andrewb]

Hi William,

Yes I noticed that too. That lead me to check on other ribbon bars with the so call "Austrian fold" ribbons and/or Austrian ribbon bars in general. I discovered that not all, but the majority of these have this type of backing.

More than a coincidence?

Here is a great old thread about ribbon bars. On the bottom of the first page Robin Lumsden has an Austrian fold SS and police device ribbon bar with the same backing. A super rare bar btw.

Regards,
AB.

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...+bars+austrian

[McCulloh]

I have actually held AndrewBs' bar in my hand....and Rick Lundstrom authenticated it. I remember the heated discussion about the year it was made because of the LS medal and the spange.