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    I wonder when the picture with three bars drop container could have been taken? I see there FJ soldier with folding shovel - Klappspaten. I try to determine if FJ were the first to use folding shovels in combat?

    Originally posted by LAURENZONI View Post
    here are the photos :-)

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      Originally posted by pzo View Post
      I wonder when the picture with three bars drop container could have been taken? I see there FJ soldier with folding shovel - Klappspaten. I try to determine if FJ were the first to use folding shovels in combat?
      I mean this picture.
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        The folding shovel (Klappspaten) was introduced as a standard model 12 November 1938 for the entire Wehrmacht so I don't think you would be able to establish that the Fallschirmjaeger were the first to use it in Combat considering the invasion of Poland took place 1 September 1939 and Fallschirmjaegers were not opposed in Combat until the invasion of Norway on 9 April 1940.





        Originally posted by pzo View Post
        I wonder when the picture with three bars drop container could have been taken? I see there FJ soldier with folding shovel - Klappspaten. I try to determine if FJ were the first to use folding shovels in combat?

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          Originally posted by W Petz View Post
          The folding shovel (Klappspaten) was introduced as a standard model 12 November 1938 for the entire Wehrmacht so I don't think you would be able to establish that the Fallschirmjaeger were the first to use it in Combat considering the invasion of Poland took place 1 September 1939 and Fallschirmjaegers were not opposed in Combat until the invasion of Norway on 9 April 1940.
          I believe there was some FJ combat in Poland by II/FJR1 in Wola Gułowska on 24th of September 1939 (8 dead and 13 wounded). However, in all photos from this event (at least the ones that I know) FJs used straight shovels.

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            I stand corrected I believe the I/ and II/FJR 1 were air landed at Dublin and other airfields near Dukla Pass but only some units under II/FJR 1 were involved in any fighting receiving their first casualties in the war against a Polish Artillery Regiment in Wola Gułowska. I will have to check my FJ photo archives as I do have some photos from their operation in Poland. I believe I posted them in one of my threads here.


            (QUOTE=kiler;8662932]I believe there was some FJ combat in Poland by II/FJR1 in Wola Gułowska on 24th of September 1939 (8 dead and 13 wounded). However, in all photos from this event (at least the ones that I know) FJs used straight shovels.[/QUOTE]

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              No matter how they reached battlefield, they were Fallschirmjager and had proper equipment and uniforms. Here are some pictures from Wola Gułowska - September 1939. I am strongly interested in equipment from that time.


              Originally posted by W Petz View Post
              I stand corrected I believe the I/ and II/FJR 1 were air landed at Dublin and other airfields near Dukla Pass but only some units under II/FJR 1 were involved in any fighting receiving their first casualties in the war against a Polish Artillery Regiment in Wola Gułowska. I will have to check my FJ photo archives as I do have some photos from their operation in Poland. I believe I posted them in one of my threads here.


              (QUOTE=kiler;8662932]I believe there was some FJ combat in Poland by II/FJR1 in Wola Gułowska on 24th of September 1939 (8 dead and 13 wounded). However, in all photos from this event (at least the ones that I know) FJs used straight shovels.
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                      pzo...check out pages 112 (#1674 & #1676) & 117 (#1745) of this thread. I had posted negatives of fallschirmjaeger in Poland.

                      Bill

                      [QUOTE=pzo;8663117]No matter how they reached battlefield, they were Fallschirmjager and had proper equipment and uniforms. Here are some pictures from Wola Gułowska - September 1939. I am strongly interested in equipment from that time.

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                        Juraver...Welcome to this thread and thank you for sharing your photos with us.

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                          I posted this one in an old thread, nice to see white camo leather stuff and rifles.
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                            Bill,
                            Thanks for pointing out some great negatives-pictures! Good luck, happy collecting and stay in good health. Avoid C virus! Best, kill it with vodka.

                            [QUOTE=W Petz;8673720]pzo...check out pages 112 (#1674 & #1676) & 117 (#1745) of this thread. I had posted negatives of fallschirmjaeger in Poland.

                            Bill

                            Originally posted by pzo View Post
                            No matter how they reached battlefield, they were Fallschirmjager and had proper equipment and uniforms. Here are some pictures from Wola Gułowska - September 1939. I am strongly interested in equipment from that time.

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                              Pzo....Thank you for your kind words....I'm definitely working on avoiding the Corona virus. I even have some Polish Vodka given to me by my friend John who is married to a beautiful Polish Girl..Gosia. Her father was a Colonel in the Polish Army when your country was under the influence of Communism.


                              [QUOTE=pzo;8673921]Bill,
                              Thanks for pointing out some great negatives-pictures! Good luck, happy collecting and stay in good health. Avoid C virus! Best, kill it with vodka.

                              Originally posted by W Petz View Post
                              pzo...check out pages 112 (#1674 & #1676) & 117 (#1745) of this thread. I had posted negatives of fallschirmjaeger in Poland.

                              Bill

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