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    M-38 Helmet from Orne, France

    I posted this in the Helmet section but thought it would be best here....I purchased this helmet at a Militaria shop in St. Marie Du Mont near Normandy..Its my first german helmet...It was found in an attic of a house attic in Orne ...I've been told its a mid-late war helmet with 3 bolts and liner ring...Other than that i dont know to much about it...I know that FJR 3 and FJR 6 fought in Orne late in the war...Here are more pics from different angles...they are about the best pics that my iphone can handle...the only stamping that i could find legible is included below.
    Could anyone let me know a short history of this particular helmet? Approximate value in U.S. dollars and anything else you would like to share...thx

    Stamping



    Helmet inside




    Top of helm



    Side



    Front


    Back


    Front
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      #3
      Not the FJR3, it is impossible in 1944. The regiment fought in Italy.

      Maybe, 3. FJD or 5. FJD.

      Ysto

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        #4
        An original late shell (700 USD?)
        Regards,
        Mats

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          #5
          Originally posted by mwl View Post
          An original late shell (700 USD?)
          Thanks for the quote but its worth way more than that...Fully rusted m-38 helmet relic shells were selling all day long in France from 350 - 780 eu....that didn't include the liner ring or bolts.

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            Originally posted by Ysto View Post
            Not the FJR3, it is impossible in 1944. The regiment fought in Italy.

            Maybe, 3. FJD or 5. FJD.

            Ysto

            I meant 3. fJD

            www.feldgrau.com/3FJD.htm
            Last edited by vcpk9; 06-23-2014, 01:34 PM.

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              #7
              If you know what it is worth then why are you asking?

              It could have been worn by a member of the 3rd or 5th FJDs, or FJR6. The Orne region covers most of the Falaise Gap battlefield.

              As I mentioned on the other thread you posted, it is a late war shell.
              Willi

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                Originally posted by Willi Z. View Post
                If you know what it is worth then why are you asking?

                It could have been worn by a member of the 3rd or 5th FJDs, or FJR6. The Orne region covers most of the Falaise Gap battlefield.

                As I mentioned on the other thread you posted, it is a late war shell.

                Hello,

                Agree with Willi. And have serious doubts that M38 with aluminium bolts were in Normandy before the closure of the Falaise gap .
                The seller sold you a "Nice story".

                David

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                  #9
                  How convenient that it turned up for sale during the 70th Anniversary proceedings

                  I was in Normandy for the 70th and purposely avoided any antique or military shops....

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by falls1944 View Post
                    Hello,

                    Agree with Willi. And have serious doubts that M38 with aluminium bolts were in Normandy before the closure of the Falaise gap .
                    The seller sold you a "Nice story".

                    David
                    The seller never told me that...all he said was that it was found in a house in Orne, France..Then i briefly looked up who was fighting in that area in Lions of Carentan book..Don Calder from FJR-6 authenticated the helmet for me as an original...i made sure that i was buying an original helmet and not a story. That is all that i was looking for...I cant afford a "pristine" condition helmet for thousands of dollars just to display in my house...I paid a very fare price for it that i would never see in the U.S.

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                      [QUOTE=Totenhead;6481810]How convenient that it turned up for sale during the 70th Anniversary proceedings

                      I was in Normandy for the 70th and purposely avoided any antique or military shops....[/

                      Actually it was VERY convenient for me that it came along when it did...im. Very pleased with my purchase...especially for the price...lol

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                        Originally posted by Willi Z. View Post
                        If you know what it is worth then why are you asking?

                        It could have been worn by a member of the 3rd or 5th FJDs, or FJR6. The Orne region covers most of the Falaise Gap battlefield.

                        As I mentioned on the other thread you posted, it is a late war shell.
                        I have recently got it appraised by a local collector since my initial post...he offered me double what i paid for it...but i refused his offer.

                        I agree with your assessment of the FJR in the Falaise Gap...Hopefully its a FJR-6 helmet(that's my reenactment group)...i guess i'll never know

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                          #13
                          Hi,

                          Your helmet shell is original for sure. You are happy with it, so it's cool .

                          David

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                            [QUOTE=vcpk9;6482235]
                            Originally posted by Totenhead View Post
                            How convenient that it turned up for sale during the 70th Anniversary proceedings

                            I was in Normandy for the 70th and purposely avoided any antique or military shops....[/

                            Actually it was VERY convenient for me that it came along when it did...im. Very pleased with my purchase...especially for the price...lol
                            Sounds good, what did you pay for it, I assume in Euro's?

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                              #15
                              C'mon guys. It is original, it is likely to be from the Normandy battle area, and it is worth around $1500-1700 IMO.

                              I went to that shop on June 7th.
                              Willi

                              Preußens Gloria!

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