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    #31
    With all respect, most of the "old" guys here are 100% foccused on paratrooper items only and collect these kind of stuff for decades.

    I´m sure, that you would have got a very high offer for this cover, if it were geniue or anything worth to collect.

    As a very young dealer (and that´s what you are) your knowledge should be and has to be splitted in a very wide range of militaria items. Sometimes not a good thing............

    The overstressed and often used "fieldmade myth" to give odd items an official touch, is nothing what will make a repro original. Same is with Zweitstück, Juweliersanfertigung....direct vet purchase and so on. The item has to speak for itself, not the story. Your cover keeps silent....................

    Schönes Wochenende
    Last edited by Gerd W.; 08-25-2007, 05:58 AM.

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      #32
      Absolutely Gerd !! I think with that statement all about this is said.

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        #33
        I think part of the problem is your understanding what people are trying to tell you!! I made the statement in the context of not believing the story and you took it as me saying you are lying. That is not what I meant...this consistantly has happened in alot of your replies to experienced Fallschirmjaeger collectors. I don't see any positive replies on this thread about your helmet cover...so what does that tell you? Time to move on...meaning you will only get more replies that the cover is a reproduction! Bill Petz

        [Quote: Naturally I am not happy if I tell you that and someone wrote... I have heard many stories in many years of collecting , but I dont believe all....

        What does sh.. like that mean? That means I am lying!

        Before those posting we had a normal discusson here. You can read it! its true.
        I never said to anyone here your oppinion is wrong , but I think different...end of Quote!!].

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          #34
          Here is my 5 pence worth....
          I started collecting in 1963 and in the following years I have only ever seen ONE original FJ helmet cover.
          That gives some idea how incredibly rare they are.
          Sure, there may be a few collectors who believe yours is OK, but in reality, if the majority thought so, (including me), your computer would have exploded due to the huge number of e-mails and PM's offering to buy it.
          Good luck with your future collecting.
          Regards,
          RAY.

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            #35
            Cover

            I dont want to start an angry discussion. Surly I got many mails , in that and in german forum from people who want to buy it. In german forums some collector say that it can be real. In this forum they say its wrong.

            to Gerd: Surly I am a young dealer, I never said anything else. This is the reason why I got that much militaria. And you can believe me that I am showing NOT all the items I get. So I am young but I saw much diffrent militaria. Not only WW2 or Wehrmacht...

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              #36
              [quote=U.Glock;2143789].........In german forums some collector say that it can be real. In this forum they say its wrong.

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              Looks like you need to decide who to believe.

              I sincerely hope you will continue to post your finds here. This forum is here to help.

              Regards,
              Steve

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                #37
                Originally posted by U.Glock View Post
                Ito Gerd: Surly I am a young dealer, I never said anything else. This is the reason why I got that much militaria. And you can believe me that I am showing NOT all the items I get. So I am young but I saw much diffrent militaria. Not only WW2 or Wehrmacht...
                Dono if you got me right. What I wanted to say is, that most dealers are normally not foccused on a special area in the militaria marsh. That´s doubtless a logical fact, as a dealer has to make money with his business. A wide range of articles is almost better in that case.

                But such a logical fact contains what I would call: feet of clay...
                Nobody is able to be an expert in 1800-1945 militaria. That´s like a dentist, teacher, plumber, carpenter and and and all in one person.

                Your posts did show us, that you are not a specialist in paratrooper items. Believe me, some of the guys here are. Even those guys don´t know everything and have to learn every day.

                In case of your cover is nothing new to learn. That kind of repro is wellknown and has been sold over the years by numerous frauds.

                However, if you ask questions here, try to live with answers.
                Last edited by Gerd W.; 08-25-2007, 01:59 PM.

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                  #38
                  Ok no problem, let this end here. The helmet is nice, and I am glad to have one real. The cover is fake or not, we will never know 100% and if I sell this helmet maybe I will not sell it with cover as 100% original , thats sure.

                  Many thanks for all the help and all opinons here.

                  Surly I will post my findings again here.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by U.Glock View Post
                    to Gerd: Surly I am a young dealer, I never said anything else. This is the reason why I got that much militaria. And you can believe me that I am showing NOT all the items I get. So I am young but I saw much diffrent militaria. Not only WW2 or Wehrmacht...
                    Once again it is unfortunate you do not appear to be listening to anything that is being said by those who have much more patience than should be allowed by law.

                    Thanks for showing us another item.

                    http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=237528
                    Willi

                    Preußens Gloria!

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                      #40
                      It sounds like you got the set for a good price, these days that is something
                      to be happy about.
                      It could be the veteran picked up the helmet cover himslef between
                      1945 - 1990. If he went to a fair, he would not be as anal as us collectors,
                      armed with reference books, lighter to test the thread and a black light. :uhoh

                      Are there any old scrathes on the rim, ie: darkened and old rust, that might
                      indicate he was getting a replacemnt for his momentos.

                      Lets see the helmet without the cover, I say that not to line you up for flax.
                      what we saw on your first post looked excellent...

                      Cheers,
                      John.

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                        #41
                        Hello SMP / Steve,

                        May I send a question to your personal / private e-mail address?

                        Thanks in advance,

                        Seth.

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