help on licence

[tropenmilitaria]

As I said Ian, I thought this originally also and I read it somewhere in a reference book, however it would appear to be incorrect.

The above image can be misleading in areas also as that is the new EU License, however for 7½ ton vehilces (old HGV 3) or old Klasse 2, if you passed your test prior to 1997 you can actually drive these on a car license!!! After a conversion/assessment of course!

Didn't mean to jump down your throat but I will have a chat with Gary later....

/Ian

I know this is an old thread but I have a license with a "3" on it so this is for car only correct? Bit of confusion reading the different responses. I have another license as part of a grouping that has a "2". Does this photo that Ian provided only true for modern vehicles? Thanks.

[tropenmilitaria]

Okay, been googling for answers and found class 3 is for any vehicle under 7.5 tons whether car or truck. So I guess for some tracked vehicles such as SdKfz 4 halftracks (7.1 tons) the driver would need a class 3 and not a class 2?
Or, are all tracked vehicles class 2?

[Ian Jewison]

That image is from the modern German license but does show the old classes, however not related to Wehrmacht driving licenses of course!

I was looking for some info last night and found some related to different tonnage of class 2 and 3, class 3 was for car/truck and I think was up to 3½ ton with class 2 over 3½ ton.

All tracked vehicles were class 2 with additional info i.e.

Verbrennungsmaschine Klasse 2 für vollkettenkraftfahrzeug

I will try and post some more and stick a thread about it later, at work currently!/Ian

[christof]

Here you will find all the information about basic WH License on one of my old article in Militaria-mag. (sorry in french)


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[Admiraal]

I cannot speak Frensh, can someone look up what they say about the classes in that article?
Btw, IMO they also used the following for tanks: "Klasse Gleisketten panzerkraftwagen".

Also, i found the following info on the internet:

Klassen bis 31. Dezember 1998 und Übergangsregelungen
1 Krafträder ohne Leistungsbeschränkung
1a Krafträder mit Leistungsbeschränkung (20 kW/27 PS bzw. 25 kW/34 PS)
1b Leichtkrafträder bis 125 cm³ (früher 80 cm³) Hubraum und max. 80 km/h (jetzt: A1 mit der Besonderheit, dass ab 18 Jahren keine Geschwindigkeitsbegrenzung mehr existiert) (1b wurde erst am 1. April 1980 geschaffen, vorher integriert in Klasse 4. Ab dem 1. April 1980 wurde Klasse 4 auf die unten genannten 50 cm³ Hubraum/50 km/h eingeschränkt.)
2 Lastkraftwagen und Zugmaschinen mit und ohne Anhänger
3 Kraftfahrzeuge bis max. 7,5 t zulässiger Gesamtmasse und Züge mit nicht mehr als drei Achsen
4 Kleinkrafträder bis 50 cm³ Hubraum und maximal 45 km/h (früher  50 km/h, noch früher 40 km/h) vor dem 1. April 1980 50 cm³ Hubraum und unbegrenzt km/h
5 Traktoren, Zugmaschinen und Kraftfahrzeuge bis 50 cm³ bzw. maximal 25 km/h

[Ian Jewison]

I have posted this all over the forum but never put a pinned thread, which I will do over the next few days........also extracts of original Merkblätte showing the different classes etc.

Class 1, 2 and 3 vehicles:

1 - Motorcycle
2 - Car/truck over 3½ ton
3 - Car/truck less than 3½ ton

/Ian

[tropenmilitaria]

All tracked vehicles were class 2 with additional info i.e.

Verbrennungsmaschine Klasse 2 für vollkettenkraftfahrzeug

I will try and post some more and stick a thread about it later, at work currently!/Ian

Great! Thank you.

[tropenmilitaria]

I have posted this all over the forum but never put a pinned thread, which I will do over the next few days........also extracts of original Merkblätte showing the different classes etc.

Class 1, 2 and 3 vehicles:

1 - Motorcycle
2 - Car/truck over 3½ ton
3 - Car/truck less than 3½ ton

/Ian

Thanks to Ian & everyone else for the pics & information. I really like these oilcloth licenses alot

[SiPo]

Christof,

A very nice article you did there. Thank you.

[christof]

Thanks a lot !

[tropenmilitaria]

Thanks a lot !

I wish I could speak French. Your article looks filled with interesting material. I just got my second license in the mail today and it has "2" and just "combustion engine" but no details eluding to being a tracked vehicle.