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    #16
    ...and here's a studio portrait of a member of schwere-Panzerjäger-Abteilung 559 who's waffenfarbe "should" be pink, however in this photo it looks very dark - almost black:
    Last edited by Ian Jewison; 05-03-2012, 02:15 AM. Reason: Photo removed at the request of the owner

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      #17
      Originally posted by djpool View Post
      Nice! Maybe my eyes are playing tricks on me but the signature on the TDB entry doesn't look anything like the two signatures above it, even though they were by the same person. Regards Jim
      The Kettler signatures do show differences in appearence but they all have the same characteristics and are, in my opinion, written by the same hand. If you compare the 1943 signature of the TDB entry with the signature on page 15 you can see again these same characteristics.

      Are there any entries on page 24 ?
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      Last edited by naxos; 05-01-2012, 10:13 PM.

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        #18
        Originally posted by Rob Johnson View Post
        ...and here's a studio portrait of a member of schwere-Panzerjäger-Abteilung 559 who's waffenfarbe "should" be pink, however in this photo it looks very dark - almost black:
        ...and i appreciate if you remove this portrait from this thread while it is not in your collection. I have this portrait in my collection and i don't like to see it living it is own life on the net.

        Thanks in advance

        Erwin

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          #19
          Originally posted by djpool View Post
          Nice! Maybe my eyes are playing tricks on me but the signature on the TDB entry doesn't look anything like the two signatures above it, even though they were by the same person. Regards Jim
          Likewise I was concerned at first but the style and characteristics as already mentioned appear to be the same. I then looked at the TDB entry and this appeared to be entered by the same hand that entered the Ostmedaille.

          Not convinced the photos are him though!

          At some stage this Soldbuch has been put back together. I have examples myself and corresponded with a few vets as to why this happened.....you can see clearly on the awards pages that they have been folded at some time....when asked I was told told they ripped these pages out and kept them hidden, at a later stage they got their Soldbuch back or it was not taken from them in the first plase, so they simply put them back in or repaired their books!!!

          Removal of the unit page for DAK books is common however.

          /Ian
          Photos/images copyright © Ian Jewison collection

          Collecting interests: Cavalry units, 1 Kavallerie/24 Panzer Division, Stukageschwader 1

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            #20
            First I want say thank you very much for all people here the help me with opinions and a special thanks to Ian for the complete statement by the signatures

            Today comes the convolut ( the first pics was from the saler ) and I find any more papers for to show and hope the helps a little bit and Ian was wright the soldier fight with the Panzer-Aufklärungs-Abteilung 580 ( he wrote self by the war prison papers )

            Rob I was not shute about the color from his eyes was very hard to say but of the backside from the pics stand the name from him and the town in the was made , for me was important that the entry TDB was original and I hope the was original

            Regards Thomas
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                #22
                That was good to read about the information on the back of the photos matching up with the Soldbuch! Would be interesting to learn the story behind his transfer from the Infantry to Pz Aufklr!

                From the British POW doc Schliefer correctly remembered that his unit was last attached to the 21st Pz Division before surrender. Prior to this Pz Aufklr Abt 580 had spent almost all of it's time with the DAK as part of the 90th Light Division.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Erwin L View Post
                  ...and i appreciate if you remove this portrait from this thread while it is not in your collection. I have this portrait in my collection and i don't like to see it living it is own life on the net.

                  Thanks in advance

                  Erwin

                  Well, if you're really that concerned then you might want to consider asking Scott and "MisterX" to have a moderator remove the scans of the photo they posted (before you owned it) in this thread where it has happily resided for the last 4+ years:

                  http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...&highlight=559

                  The scan I have in my archive was downloaded from that very thread back in 2008 and as there is no watermark on the portrait and I do not keep tabs on what you currently own I had no idea a copy of the portrait now resides in your collection.

                  Seeing as how the scan I have was made by someone else before you even owned the photo I don't see why I should have to remove it, however if you really want it deleted from this thread where a cropped version was used to help contribute to the discussion, I have absolutely no problem with that.

                  Best,
                  Rob

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