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    #1

    New TDB Convolut

    Hello

    Here I want show my newest TDB Convolut I hope all was ok and nobody see red flag if any was bad please tell me

    Regards Thomas
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          The only bad thing was that the side 3 and 4 with the units was destroyed here the side with TDB entry
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            Originally posted by REDVIPER View Post
            The only bad thing was that the side 3 and 4 with the units was destroyed here the side with TDB entry
            I can see nothing wrong with this group. Nice IR 474 printed ISA document. Good catch and congrats!

            Interesting, that in the studio photos of him it is not Infanterie litzen on his cap, or shoulderboards. Sani?
            Last edited by Edward; 05-01-2012, 11:48 AM.

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              #7
              Looks ok.....
              The FP Nr. 37829 belongs to Aufklärungs-Abteilung 580

              /Ian
              Photos/images copyright © Ian Jewison collection

              Collecting interests: Cavalry units, 1 Kavallerie/24 Panzer Division, Stukageschwader 1

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                As Jerry has pointed out....the Waffenfarbe appears to be too dark to be Infanterie or Aufklärungs! Are the photos actually him then!?!?!!?

                Also FP Nr. 07394 belonged to 4 Kompanie, Infanterie-Ersatz-Bataillon 474.

                The Wound Badge citation is signed by Major Rudolf Wüst. Btl. Kdr. II./Infanterie-Regiment 474. Deutsches Kreuz in Gold 2.1.1942.
                The signatures in Soldbuch are that of Oberleutnant Heinz Kettler, Panzer-Aufklärungs-Abteilung 580. Deutsches Kreuz in Gold 10.5.1943

                /Ian
                Last edited by Ian Jewison; 05-01-2012, 03:45 PM.
                Photos/images copyright © Ian Jewison collection

                Collecting interests: Cavalry units, 1 Kavallerie/24 Panzer Division, Stukageschwader 1

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                  #9
                  Could be black for engineer, every infantry division had its engineer units.
                  Another point that has caught my attention is his tunic on the left pictures, look at the pockets, perhaps a modified foreign tunic?

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                    Nice! Maybe my eyes are playing tricks on me but the signature on the TDB entry doesn't look anything like the two signatures above it, even though they were by the same person. Regards Jim

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                      Originally posted by Ian Jewison View Post
                      As Jerry has pointed out....the Waffenfarbe appears to be too dark to be Infanterie or Aufklärungs! Are the photos actually him then!?!?!!?
                      /Ian
                      Yes, odd waffenfarbe in the photos for someone who is Infanterie. With page 3/4 of the Soldbuch missing it is really hard too tell exactly what we have in the photos. A real question mark!


                      Originally posted by V1Oliver View Post
                      Could be black for engineer, every infantry division had its engineer units.
                      Another point that has caught my attention is his tunic on the left pictures, look at the pockets, perhaps a modified foreign tunic?
                      Yes, but from the documentation shown we know that while in Germany and prior to his Afrika assignment he was still with Infantry replacement units. Good catch on the studio photo. Not up on my tunics at the moment, but maybe a Reichswehr era tunic? Just a guess.

                      Originally posted by djpool View Post
                      Nice! Maybe my eyes are playing tricks on me but the signature on the TDB entry doesn't look anything like the two signatures above it, even though they were by the same person. Regards Jim
                      Good point Jim. See also the security check signed by Kettler on page 15. This was done on 28. 2. 43. All 4 of Kettler's signatures shown have variations. Yes, the TDB entry signed by Kettler is the oddest of the lot. The TDB entry itself though appears good.
                      Last edited by Edward; 05-01-2012, 07:07 PM.

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                        Your right. I was just comparing it to the two signatures right above the TDB entry. Jim

                        Originally posted by Edward View Post
                        Yes, odd waffenfarbe in the photos for someone who is Infanterie. A real question mark!




                        Yes, but usually the Pioneer Zug ect...attached to the Regiment should have been so designated on the doc and for a Pioneer the Sturmabzeichen instead of an ISA doc! Not up on my tunics at the moment, but those are some really low breast pockets! Maybe a Reichswehr era tunic? Just a guess.



                        Good point Jim. See also the security check signed by Kettler on page 15. This was done on 28. 2. 43. All 4 of Kettler's signatures shown have variations. Yes, the TDB entry signed by Kettler is the oddest of the lot. The TDB entry itself though appears good.

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                          Originally posted by djpool View Post
                          Your right. I was just comparing it to the two signatures right above the TDB entry. Jim
                          I was thinking the same thing Jim until I looked over the other pages and came across the security check. Still the security check signature looks more like the first two as you mentioned. Overall all 4 signatures show variations.

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                            Great grouping, Thomas - Congrats!

                            As for the studio portraits... Without anything else to go on there's really no way to be 100% sure the guy is the photos is the same guy the Soldbuch belonged to. Thomas - can you make out his eye color? In the Soldbuch it's listed as blue-gray, but from what I can see in the scans you've posted the soldier's eyes look almost brown(?) As for waffenfarbe.... I've seen red waffenfarbe look almost black in some photos, but much lighter in others. The soutache on his field cap looks very dark though. Tough call!

                            Rob

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                              #15
                              Elaborating a bit more on waffenfarbe... here's a studio portrait of a StuG crew member wearing collar tabs and shoulder straps piped in red waffenfarbe, however it appears almost black:
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