s&l kc for reveiw

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I have this knights cross for review . I believe it is a S&L KC . It is the non magnetic one . It has a slight dent row on the 3 o clock arm. The oaks I don't know much about them. Thanks in advance Cliff

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[Tom B]

Post war made type.

[AndyC]

I´ll agree with Tom B



Andy

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Post war made type.

Hi Tom how can you tell a war time from a post war cross? Cliff

[Leroy]

Would you like to sell it?

[Tom B]

Hi Tom how can you tell a war time from a post war cross? Cliff

The non magnetic core and the cross is probably not silver marker either. Tom

[vonStubben]

In my studied opinion, these Oaks are original war time produced by S&L. Those who insist that these were only post war manufactured are wrong in my opinion and are really missing the boat on these. Why?, because it only makes sense that S&L attempted to get a govt. contract when they, as well as the other big companies, were also competing for the contract, but as we know, Godet won out.

It is now common belief that Juncker also competed in manufacturing this higher award as well but also failed to receive an official contract, yet we know at least one set of Oaks was worn throughout the war having been permanently attached to the pilots KC.

S&L did not receive the contract to provide them officially, but did make them for display purposes and at least one set of the OLS with elongated swords were worn by General of Panzers, Hasso von Manteuffel. How he received them is a mystery but nobody's going to get me to believe that they were anything other than a S&L product.

Now that I've said this there will be many who disagree and are going to want me to haggle on and on about it all, but Im not going to get drawn into all that disagreement so I ask those with an open mind, and who have REALLY studied these, to tust my five decades worth of study on this particular subject and accept them as pre May 8, 1945 manufacture. Were they made post 45, yes they were, but not not in the way that these examples were.

I am convinced that there will come a day when solid evidence will will come to light on this particular type and then everyone is going to want a set.

Chuck

[chrisje110]

Those Oakleaves are stunning !

[Ludwig]

In my studied opinion, these Oaks are original war time produced by S&L. Those who insist that these were only post war manufactured are wrong in my opinion and are really missing the boat on these. Why?, because it only makes sense that S&L attempted to get a govt. contract when they, as well as the other big companies, were also competing for the contract, but as we know, Godet won out.

It is now common belief that Juncker also competed in manufacturing this higher award as well but also failed to receive an official contract, yet we know at least one set of Oaks was worn throughout the war having been permanently attached to the pilots KC.

S&L did not receive the contract to provide them officially, but did make them for display purposes and at least one set of the OLS with elongated swords were worn by General of Panzers, Hasso von Manteuffel. How he received them is a mystery but nobody's going to get me to believe that they were anything other than a S&L product.

Now that I've said this there will be many who disagree and are going to want me to haggle on and on about it all, but Im not going to get drawn into all that disagreement so I ask those with an open mind, and who have REALLY studied these, to tust my five decades worth of study on this particular subject and accept them as pre May 8, 1945 manufacture. Were they made post 45, yes they were, but not not in the way that these examples were.

I am convinced that there will come a day when solid evidence will will come to light on this particular type and then everyone is going to want a set.

Chuck

Agree! Most logic scene is that S&L tried... and lost. Note that the ugly "wart" seen on so many S&L OLs is not there!

[Leroy]

.... Note that the ugly "wart" seen on so many S&L OLs is not there!

Nor are the other flaws seen on postwar pieces.

[Ludwig]

Correctomundo! A really nice OL!