Another shot of condemned. Pebbling looks a little sparse up near the top of the cross where it would not be subject to wear... My observation on that. Those swaszi's look perfect. I don't see any evidence of hand cutting.
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Pebbling on Stan's cross looks better, but casting can pick that up, swazi's look hand cut...
For purposes of comparing hinge/clasp I would stay to bronze CEJ crosses. I would not bet all crosses are equally constructed in terms of hinge/clasp in comparison of bronze to silver.Comment
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I don't mean to derail, but Brian can you please elaborate in this? Certainly a couple minutes goose stepping in a parade wouln't cause SKs 'by the undreds' to fall off uniforms?Originally posted by Brian S View PostComment
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Actually, yes it did... Literally hundreds fell off uniforms. They had to get people to follow the marching troops and pick up trampled crosses. Maybe they planned it that way to prop up the post award LDO award volume.Originally posted by Scott C. View Post
Imagine all the ones that did not just fall off but were hanging open. If it were me, I would have bent the catch.
I do not know if CEJ's were more prone to falling off uniforms than Deumer, Shickle or Meybauer.
"Although the use of "goose step" had been waived, the Legionnaires nonetheless were soon sweating profusely and many lost their hard earned decorations during the snappy parade. A special detachment was formed to follow the parade and collect the glittering and often trampled crosses."Last edited by Brian S; 06-17-2014, 12:47 PM.Comment
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Bronze CEJ
I'll toss mine in the mix for comparison. Both sword hilts.Comment
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two of four eaglesComment
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remaining two eaglesComment
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center discComment
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cej (that's a ding on the J not part of the stamp)Comment
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Hi Brian
I see you used my photos
Is my ,,SK,, is good or not ???
Gruss JurgenComment
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This is just about the nicest photo of a disc I have ever seen. Look at the wave action just to the left and into that swaz. If your disc has that distinctive feature, and you'll have to play with the lighting, then it's either a Juncker or an extremely well made copy. Doesn't matter if it's gold/silver/bronze, it's the die.Comment
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Originally posted by jurgeng View PostHi Brian
I see you used my photos
Is my ,,SK,, is good or not ???
Gruss Jurgen
I can't say for sure. My waves are at 3 o'clock and a bit dark. Here's the best I can do with yours and can't see it well enough.Comment
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Look at the same person's bronze. Definition not as crisp but the waves are there but now on the bottom or 6 o'clock.Comment
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Gold, nearly mint, or at least as mint as mint can be after 80 years. Waves at the 11 o'clock vertical. Several other "tells".Comment
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Hi collectors,Originally posted by Brian S View Post
all manufacturers up to Meybauer have used the same needle system when spain cross. And especially Juncker has always been the same, even with gold, silver, bronze. Whether with or without swords. I have all in my collection. And for my book I have seen many hundreds of Spain crosses. And it's always the same system. In particular, the need to always be the same with CEJ, the L/12 are always the same with the CEJ and without hallmark.
Parrade and drop the crosses, what? what? what? I hear do not really know what's wrong with you?
Greeting Hans Günter (LC)
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Hi Sammler,
alle Hersteller bis auf Meybauer haben beim spanienkreuz das gleiche Nadelsystem benutzt. Und ganz besonders Juncker hat immer das gleiche, auch bei Gold, Silber, Bronze. Ob mit oder ohne Schwerter. Ich habe alle in meine Sammlung. Und für mein Buch habe ich viele hundert Spanienkreuze gesehen. Und es ist immer das gleiche System. Besonders die mit CEJ müssen immer gleich sein, auch die L/12 sind immer gleich mit den CEJ und auch ohne Punze.
Parrade und fallen die Kreuze, was? was?was? ich höre ja nicht recht was ist los mit euch?
Gruß Hansgünter (LC)Comment
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