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    #76
    Pieter,

    they even come with strange looking swords (handpainted, I guess). And maybe it is a Juncker, too. I don't know.

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      #77
      Nice early recipient of the swords in March 1942. Clearly the Herr Oberst isn't wearing paint.

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        #78
        Does anyone ever recall seeing this 'type' of cross in a case and its OUTER CARTON?
        Regards,
        Dave

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          #79
          Dave,

          I think Allan has two with the case (but no outer carton).


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            #80
            Yes, I recall those Dietrich and although my view of these crosses isn't a secret I thought I'd throw the thought out as I can't recall it asked in past go-arounds!!!
            Regards,
            Dave

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              #81
              But what would it proove or dis-aproove? Cases, cartons, ribbons, oaks, loops... all can be switched, re-aranged, as we know.

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                #82
                The outer cartons were maker marked! Switching and mixing and matching would be most difficult!!!
                Regards,
                Dave

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                  #83
                  So what can you show of the chronology of outer cartonage. It's my knowledge these were early crosses no later than early 1943 for mine.

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                    #84
                    Touché<O</O
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                      #85
                      Thanks Dietrich!!


                      Brian, wouldn't an 'early' made item be much more likely to be packaged well...
                      Regards,
                      Dave

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                        #86
                        I know almost nothing about cartonage. I lean entirely on Marcus and you for info regarding that. The only original cartonage that survived WWI was the PlM box and a couple of others. As for WWII I have numerous Luft boxes and EK1 boxes and Spange boxes. But the paper packets and outer cartonage is somthing I know nothing about. Not that I wouldn't covet the nice L/12 Juncker RK cartonage. No mistaking that one.

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