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**Steinar** · 01-07-2010, 12:29 PM

Im only guessing. but he probably had more than 2 copies but not more than 4-5 copies. Do not think he was a "medal guy" he was very very proud of his EK1.

**Jon. H** · 01-07-2010, 12:57 PM

Believe it or not, this is what i know about Hitler's ek1.

I've picked up this story from a good collector friend of mine.

There is a large collection in Norway including Dr. Goebbels uniform, a Von Ribbentrop uniform, Göring's hunting cabinet, a globe given to Göring from Hitler, one of Hitler's visor's and a lot more.

The owner also has Adolf Hitler's first EK1, the actual one he got during WW1, not one of his many examples but the actual cross he got in WW1. The cross was given to Austria as a present from Hitler in a special frame. It was hanging in a town hall, museum, NSDAP party hall or something like that. The cross was taken as a trophy by the russians if i remember correctly, and it's now in the collection in Norway.
I have never seen the cross in person or on photo, but those i have the story from is fully trustable and honest collector's. I know that the Hitler visor was displayed in a military shop in Norway when it opened, they had to have police guards.

I don't know any more about the EK1, but i will contact one here that possibly do.

Jon-Olav

**Flemming** · 01-07-2010, 01:01 PM

I have only one question to that story...how would the russian get the IC from Austria, as it was in the allied terratory?

/Flemming

**Kyle Harrington** · 01-07-2010, 01:11 PM

Hitler's EK1

The Russians occupied large chunks of Austria before the final demarcation lines were acted upon and subsequently moved out.

**Jon. H** · 01-07-2010, 01:20 PM

Originally posted by Kyle Harrington View Post

The Russians occupied large chunks of Austria before the final demarcation lines were acted upon and subsequently moved out.

Yes they did, that's when the EK1 was taken

**streptile** · 01-07-2010, 01:22 PM

My understanding is that Hitler's cross is supposed to be by unknown maker "KO" -- I have read this, but have no information otherwise.

**Bob Hritz** · 01-07-2010, 01:23 PM

I think the citizens of Vienna may recall the Soviet occupation. Something like 25000 women were raped in the first 24 hours.

Bob Hritz

**Jon. H** · 01-07-2010, 01:25 PM

Originally posted by streptile View Post

My understanding is that Hitler's cross is supposed to be by unknown maker "KO" -- I have read this, but have no information otherwise.

I have been after photos of the cross for so long, if i can get him to take
some i will for sure post them!

**Hartigan** · 01-07-2010, 01:27 PM

Fascinating story. It would be very nice if he was willing to share some pictures of it with us

**Jon. H** · 01-07-2010, 01:34 PM

Originally posted by Hartigan View Post

Fascinating story. It would be very nice if he was willing to share some pictures of it with us

Yes it really would! I have been after photos since i heard the story!

Would also be interesting to se the frame

**Darrell** · 01-07-2010, 02:23 PM

Originally posted by streptile View Post

My understanding is that Hitler's cross is supposed to be by unknown maker "KO" -- I have read this, but have no information otherwise.

KO = Unknown?

As far as I know:

KO =

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**Joe Mc** · 01-07-2010, 02:24 PM

That is a facinating story and I am envious of that collection. There really is some extreamly interesting items and untold tales out there!

I am amazed the Soviets occupied Vienna. I really did not know about that.

Thank you all for the input, truely learnt a lot from this thread.

Thanks again,

Joe

**Joe Mc** · 01-07-2010, 02:29 PM

Originally posted by Darrell View Post

KO = Unknown?

As far as I know:

KO =

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That is what I have on my lists too

**Christopher** · 01-07-2010, 02:44 PM

I thought KO was "Konigliches Munzamt Orden of Berlin"?

Christopher

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