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    New KVK1 mm43

    I haven't posted a new pick up here in a dog's age. I had a KVK1 with swords case that has needed a new tenant for quite some time. I finally found a suitable item on the Estand for a good price. It's a KVK1 with swords, in zinc, marked on the pin 43. It's a worn piece with some character that is a good match for the case, which is in similar condition.
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    The rear.
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      A close up of the mark.
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        Here it is in it's new home.
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          Top of the case.
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            #6
            Steve,

            That's a nice cross. Like you say, with character. I don't see a catchplate on this cross. Are you sure it's not buntmetal?

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              #7
              Originally posted by robert pierce View Post
              Steve,

              That's a nice cross. Like you say, with character. I don't see a catchplate on this cross. Are you sure it's not buntmetal?
              That's right, there is something about plates attaching the hinge and catch on zinc or tombak badges. How does that work again? With most of the finish off this and none of the tombak characteristics coming through, I assumed it was zinc. There are no plates on this one.

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                #8
                Do you have a way to weigh your cross? I'll pull one of my buntmetal '43's out and weigh it...

                Edit: Mine weighs 22.0 grams.

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                  I don't have a scale like that here. Is this baseplate thing an absolute? Because I have a KVK1 without swords that I'm pretty sure is tombak and it has a plate on the hihge part.

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                    Originally posted by Steve Campbell View Post
                    I don't have a scale like that here. Is this baseplate thing an absolute? Because I have a KVK1 without swords that I'm pretty sure is tombak and it has a plate on the hihge part.
                    Usually a backing plate on the catch indicates a zinc badge, although I have seen catchplates on Wiedmann EKI's. I've searched my files trying to locate a zinc '43' without a catchplate, but came up wanting. This will take some more study. If you could only weigh it...

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                      #11
                      Is Wiedmann L15?

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                        #12
                        Just found an old thread showing a couple of my KVKs. A 4 with swords, in zinc, which does not appear to have any backing plates. The other one is an L15 without swords, in tombak, which has a backing plate on the hinge. Hereès the link:

                        http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ht=kvk1+swords

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                          #13
                          Here's a link to a zinc L15 with swords, which shows backing plates on the hardware.

                          http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ght=cased+KVk1

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Steve Campbell View Post
                            Just found an old thread showing a couple of my KVKs. A 4 with swords, in zinc, which does not appear to have any backing plates. The other one is an L15 without swords, in tombak, which has a backing plate on the hinge. Hereès the link:

                            http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ht=kvk1+swords
                            The backing plate on the 'L15' is actually part of the cross, Steve. They both are zinc, yes, and have integral catches.

                            Wiedmann is 'L/51'.

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                              Originally posted by Steve Campbell View Post
                              Here's a link to a zinc L15 with swords, which shows backing plates on the hardware.

                              http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ght=cased+KVk1
                              Here is a link to a KVK1 without swords in tomback, no backing plate. It seems we have a mixture of both in both material types.

                              http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ght=cased+kvk1

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