800 4 thriller

[George Stimson]

"It would seem that "a conspiracy of silence speaks louder than words.""

How so?

[Stephen Stout]

"It would seem that "a conspiracy of silence speaks louder than words.""

How so?

Or maybe the thread died because of lack of productive evidence for example, a named recipient or photos to compare.

[transvision]

i know this is a old thread. but it would be interesting to know were we are with current research in to the 800/4 kc?

[Unfront]

Same here. I'd love to know everyone's current thoughts.

For the record, I'm of the opinion that the 800-4's are war time produced crosses. I am also of the mindset that the 800-4's could precede the 935-4 (which are accepted an accepted cross) in so far as the development of the 6-9:00 Knee Flaw.

I have handled a few immediate post war St&L B Frame crosses meant for the G.I Souvenir hunters, and they don't hold a candle to the 800-4 in terms of quality, construction, and finish.

[Dietrich Maerz]

For me, based on the evidence I have seen (Klessheim), the 800-4 is war-time, just as the 935-4 are war-time.

[wrongplanet67]

Where does the S&L 800-4 fit into this scheme you once posted on this forum? Very rare?

Ritterkreuz rarity

Common:
Juncker L/12
Klein & Quenzer 65

Scarce:
Juncker 800
Steinhauer & Lück A-Type
Klein & Quenzer unmarked
Zimmermann 20

Rare:
Juncker unmarked zinc
Juncker unmarked magnetic
Juncker 800 dot
Juncker Lazy 2
Steinhauer & Lück 935-4
Zimmerman 800
Schickle L/15 and unmarked

Very Rare:
Juncker micro 2
Zimmerman L/52
Godet
3/4 Ring

[Unfront]

I'd put it closer in to the "very rare" category.

[rob NL]

If my memory is correct, there was one 935 found in the Königbergs area, in the ground.

[Dietrich Maerz]

There was an article in my magazine about a posthumously awarded 935-4.

From my experience, by the way, the S&L A-Typ is not scarce but rather the most often encountered of all Knights Cross types.

[wrongplanet67]

From my experience, by the way, the S&L A-Typ is not scarce but rather the most often encountered of all Knights Cross types.

Alright, I'll change it in my list although the source for this rarity list was a post from yourself somewhere on this forum (I think, or maybe from your book?)

[chen]

I think this thread talks about S&L 800/4, then later S&L 935/4. Both are B type frame.
Wrongplanet67 askes how rare in Maerz's rarity list.
Maerz just says S&L Type A frame is scare( often encountered).
According to his list, 935/4 is rare, then probably 800/4 is the same.

[Dietrich Maerz]

S&L A-Type is common, 935-4 is rare, 800-4 is very rare.