Spanienkreuz

[jacques]

Hi
As it was already writen , we have scheduled François and me,to write an article on the Spanish cross, in the same way as the German cross one. But we need the help of all of you, with closed pics of your crosses, award documents, portraits, cases etc... As the german cross article, this one could not born without your help. A Few of you have already answered "present", we are waiting the others. send your pics directly to François. Thank you in advance.
Cases: blue, Green and brown
documents: provisory, large document for all classes, werhpass.
crosses: copies; original known variants; all marks (4, unmarked, L/11, L/12, L/13, L/15, L/16, L/18, L/21, L/52, Meybauer armories, 800, 835, 900, CEJ, SEDLATZEK, etc.. ),

jacques

[jacques]

no Spanienkreuz?

Hi collectors
I didn't receive pics. Are the only spanish crosses that escaped the destruction in my collection?
Friendly
jacques

[Rich G]

Jacques

I've sent all my pics to François, but if you need any more you know were to find me.

Rich

[Mike H]

We will come ...

Jacques,

Sorry I have not sent you the photos you need. I promised them to Francois some weeks ago. I have cased Spanish Crosses with Swords in Bronze, Silver, and Gold. The Gold is a 900 marked piece and the others are L/11's as I recall. All in beautiful condition and from the George Petersen collection originally.

Thanks for your patience and back in contact with you soon. I also owe Francois a bunch of photos of Luftwaffe badge cases, too. My digital camera is going to burn up!

As a teaser, I have attached a photo below of my Spanish Cross in Silver. It is marked L/11 and is in the green LDO box. Sorry for the poor quality --- better ones to come.

Best regards,

Mike Heuer

[spectre]

I have a bronze cross with swords from S & L. I sent my pictures to Francois as well, you need to get on his case, he's holding out on you.

[François SAEZ]

Ok, here we stand:
We have trhe pics from Alan -
I am waiting for the ones from Mike.
Few people contribute (the ones who did know who they are) - This means that the article will take more time to built - We don't have pics for all of them.

Here is what we have for crosses (if your(s) is the same, don't hesitate to send more pictures - it is better to have two examples):

- CE JUNCKER:
With swords:
900
900 CEJ L/12
We miss:
L/12
L/12 900

Without swords
We have L/12

- STEINHAUER:
We have with swords:
L/16 800
4
We miss with swords:
835
L/16
We miss without swords:
4 L/16
4

- GODET: we have

- MEYBAUER:
900 + heraldic shield
We miss:
900
L/13

- DEUMER:
We have without swords: L/11
We miss with swords:
900
L/11

- FOERSTER:
We look for pics of one with swords marked L/21

- BNL:
We look for an original one marked BNL

- SCHICKLE:
We look for ones marked
L/15
and also marked L/15 on the pin

- ZIMMERMANN:
We have L/52 for one with swords, but more are welcome

- MAYERS:
Looking for L/18 marked, both with & without swords

- SEDLATZEK:
We need pics from this maker

- Not marked:
We have some but need more

All pics high def, with the maximum description (measurements, weight....

Also:
Official text
Soldbuch / wehrpass entries (all classes)
Docs (all classes)
Preliminary docs
Document listing all medals won in Spain
Cases for each class
Green cases with and without LDO, also cases with imprinted cross on the top
Pics in wear (all classes)

As always, high def pics please

François

[François SAEZ]

Sorry,
We look also for good pics of fakes
François

[Larry Lipps]

Jacques, if you still need a bronze “4” marked, I’ll take some better scans and send them to you next week.

[jacques]

Fine!

Hi
I just come back fom my office. It's a pleasure to see your answers. thanks to all of you. keep on sending good pics to françois or to me.
friendly
jacques

[Bill M]

--France-wah,
--I will get you pics of my "CEJ 800" Silver w/Swords as soon as I am able.

[Prosper Keating]

Voici un exemplaire sans marquage. Est-ce vous en avez une comme ceci? Sinon, envoyez-moi un e-mail et je vous enverrai des belles images.

Prosper

[ERIC S.]

Hi jacques,
Sent my pics to Francois yesterday
ERIC

[François SAEZ]

Yes, please, Bill, Prosper, Eric & all send me the pics at fsaez@noos.fr

Please, high def., close ups when possible (+ don't forget if possible: weight, dimentions....)

Thanks
François

[W. C. Stump]

Has the interrest wained?

It seems strange to me after all the controversy over the Spanish Cross without Swords in silver by Meybauer that the interest has somewhat waned. I continued forward to gather evidence that this firm used the same die for the swords and the one without swords. Now that I have found another example in bronze no interest has been forthcoming. Did the article on the Spanish Cross fizzle out or just silent work is going on behind the scenes?

[Chris Boonzaier]

Where does the theory come from that they had 2 sets of Dies ?????