The Iron Cross second class 1939 than Schinkel version

[Biro]

Excellent and informative Grueni...

I'm sure it would be interesting for all of us to see close-up how the frame of the L/11 marked 1914 ek2 compares to the frame of the 'Deumer' schinkel.

If you have time...

Again - great job.

Marshall

[Douglas 5]

Well done !

[Jono]

Fantastic Work! Thanks

[Robert T.]

5. Iron Cross 1939 Second Class Schinkelversion

maker: Unknown

Schinkel “intermixed”

Attention:
The term “intermixed” version is made of my own and it’s no official term.

The frame isn’t complette schinkel like but no standard EK II like, too.
There are elements of schinkel and standard EK II intermixed.

- three part
- magnetic
- wide: 43,41 mm
- height: 43,04 mm
- weight: 19,53 g
- standard number design
- little swastica

Thank you for helping me find a name for this cross ." INTERMIXED " sounds great.
Shown here with a narrow ribbon.

Regards,
____________
Robert

[Bas Lamers]

nice really nice

[zambrotta11]

Great job Grueni! Now I have a reference for Schinkel EK2s!

Regards,
Stephen

[ben bijker]

7. Iron Cross 1939 Second Class

maker: Unknown

„progressive“ EK II version

The frame has the normal EK II design, but number design, size and the little swastica are elements of schinkel. I don’t have this Schinkel version and I have only this picture.
I have only seen 2 EK II of this type.
An association to schinkel family is a matter of opinion. I think it’s the next level after the schinkel EK II number 5.
In fact it’s no schinkel EK II but through the mixing of different design elements (schinkel and standard) it’s an interesting EK II version for an EK-collector.

- three part
- magnetic
- wide: 43,00 mm
- height: 43,00 mm
- weight: ???
- typical early number design
- little swastica

Are you sure this one is magnetic?
I have this one in pinback, screwback and ek2, all 3 are non-magnetic (zinc core)

Best regards,
Ben

[grueni1208]

The picture and the EK II are from a friend and he said it's magnetic.

Regards

Grueni

[grueni1208]

6. Iron Cross 1939 Second Class Schinkelversion

maker: Unknown

I don’t have this Schinkel version and I have only this picture.
I know only this exemplar.

- three part
- magnetic
- wide: ??? (probably 43,xx mm)
- height: ??? (probably 43,xx mm)
- weight: ???
- typical early number design
- little swastica

I got new informations.
- wide: 42,56 mm
- height: 45,8 mm (with loop ring)
- weight: 15,14 g

Regards

Grueni

[LuckyLuudje]

I got new informations.
- wide: 42,56 mm
- height: 45,8 mm (with loop ring)
- weight: 15,14 g

Regards

Grueni

I'm think that your source of information is not correct.
The cross is mine so I just made a picture on the scale.
Because f the darkness I'm not able to ae better pictures but the cross has been posted before in this thread.
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...t=odd+schinkel

[Jørgen E]

Great thread! Nice reference.. I have a one-piece schinkel EK2 1939 my self :-)

[grueni1208]

I'm think that your source of information is not correct.
The cross is mine so I just made a picture on the scale.
Because f the darkness I'm not able to ae better pictures but the cross has been posted before in this thread.

I have the informations from a Niemann Expertise.
There is the weight with ribbon.

Regards

Grueni

[Anthony N]

Nice work
Glad to see the one piece EKII in there
Ant.

[grueni1208]

Are you sure this one is magnetic?
I have this one in pinback, screwback and ek2, all 3 are non-magnetic (zinc core)

Best regards,
Ben

Now, I have this version and the core is non-magnetic.

Regards

Daniel

[CMSgt]

Ek S

Daniel

Nice work you have done to compile this important information. Do you have a picture of the Schinkel-B cross? Thanks Jim