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    The Iron Cross second class 1939 than Schinkel version

    The Iron Cross second class 1939 than Schinkel version

    I would like give an overview about the different schinkel versions second class.
    Some schinkel EK II’s I can assign to a maker.
    I will show schinkel versions and intermixed versions. The intermixed versions are EK II’s with schinkel elements and normal/standard EK elements.

    The term “intermixed” version is made of my own and it’s no official term.

    Overview:
    1. maker Deumer (magnetic)
    2. maker Deumer (non-magnetic)
    3. maker Meybauer (magnetic)
    4. maker unknown
    5. maker unknown
    6. maker unknown

    7. maker unknown
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    Daniel


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    Wilhelm Deumer from Luedenscheid

    1. Iron Cross 1939 Second Class Schinkelversion

    maker: Wilhelm Deumer from Luedenscheid

    The association to Deumer cames from an 1914 EK II with maker’s mark L/11. This schinkelversion and the 1914 EK II L/11 have the same distinctive framedesign. The 1914 and 1939 EK II versions are with magnetic and non-magnetic cores.

    - three part
    - magnetic
    - wide: 43,64 mm
    - height: 43,28 mm
    - weight: 16,66 g
    - typical early number design
    - little swastica
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      Wilhelm Deumer from Luedenscheid

      2. Iron Cross 1939 Second Class Schinkelversion

      maker: Wilhelm Deumer from Luedenscheid

      - three part
      - non-magnetic
      - wide: 43,45 mm
      - height: 43,35 mm
      - weight: 16,20 g
      - typical early number design
      - little swastica
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        Paul Meybauer from Berlin

        3. Iron Cross 1939 Second Class Schinkelversion

        maker: Paul Meybauer from Berlin

        The association to Meybauer cames from a rare Schinkel EK I version with a distinctive Meybauer-pin (like on the standard Meybauer EK I). This pin was used ONLY by Meybauer.

        - three part
        - magnetic
        - wide: 43,00 mm
        - height: 42,89 mm
        - weight: 19,19 g
        - standard number design
        - little swastica
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          Unknown

          4. Iron Cross 1939 Second Class Schinkelversion

          maker: Unknown

          - one-part, “granulated” core
          - non-magnetic
          - wide: 43,28 mm
          - height: 42,89 mm
          - weight: 23,11 g
          - typical early number design
          - little swastica
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            Unknown

            5. Iron Cross 1939 Second Class Schinkelversion

            maker: Unknown

            Schinkel “intermixed”

            Attention:
            The term “intermixed” version is made of my own and it’s no official term.

            The frame isn’t complette schinkel like but no standard EK II like, too.
            There are elements of schinkel and standard EK II intermixed.

            - three part
            - magnetic
            - wide: 43,41 mm
            - height: 43,04 mm
            - weight: 19,53 g
            - standard number design
            - little swastica
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              Unknown

              6. Iron Cross 1939 Second Class Schinkelversion

              maker: Unknown

              I don’t have this Schinkel version and I have only this picture.
              I know only this exemplar.

              - three part
              - magnetic
              - wide: ??? (probably 43,xx mm)
              - height: ??? (probably 43,xx mm)
              - weight: ???
              - typical early number design
              - little swastica
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                Unknown

                7. Iron Cross 1939 Second Class

                maker: Unknown

                „progressive“ EK II version

                The frame has the normal EK II design, but number design, size and the little swastica are elements of schinkel. I don’t have this Schinkel version and I have only this picture.
                I have only seen 2 EK II of this type.
                An association to schinkel family is a matter of opinion. I think it’s the next level after the schinkel EK II number 5.
                In fact it’s no schinkel EK II but through the mixing of different design elements (schinkel and standard) it’s an interesting EK II version for an EK-collector.

                - three part
                - non-magnetic
                - wide: 43,00 mm
                - height: 43,00 mm
                - weight: ???
                - typical early number design
                - little swastica
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                Last edited by grueni1208; 09-24-2008, 04:43 AM.
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                  maker assignation

                  Wilhelm Deumer from Luedenscheid

                  EK II 1914 with maker's mark L/11
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                    .
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                      maker assignation

                      Paul Meybauer from Berlin

                      Schinkel EK I with distinctive hinge and pin system like Meybauer
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                        Meybauer hinge and pin system

                        http://www.deutsche-ehrenzeichen.de/...1939-7-l13.htm
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                          #13
                          This is an outstanding compilition, grueni. Thanks for the effort!
                          George

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                            #14
                            Outstanding work indeed.

                            Peter

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                              #15
                              Thank you Grueni,
                              A superb reference, I hope this one gets pinned for easy access.
                              Much appreciated.

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