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    e-Stand Spangen

    The Second Class Spangen being offered here http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=109818 have been brought to my attention. Are they good/bad? Discuss.
    George
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    Well, I hate to say it, but I believe the L/16 is an out and out fake, and been doing the rounds for years. I have never seen an original L/16 spange ( although I have a stickpin!) I've seen ones that look pretty convincing, but still very dubious IMHO.
    The unmarked one is a strange one. We have had a member show this style before, and it was given the by the powers that be. I cannot remember who proved it to be real, but I have a pic of it in my 'real' files...
    regards
    jon

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      #3
      I have a spange that was discussed here and fell into the L16 debate. This spange looks different again. Does anyone have an authentic L/16 spange? George, you have a number of spangen, do you own one?

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        #4
        The unmarked one with the weird looking date is definitely 100% original. They appear in untouched groupings.
        The L/16 one is difficult, but I would give it a chance, I personally like it.
        Cheers, Frank

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          #5
          I agree that the second example is good.
          Here, for ease of discussion, is the "L/16."
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          George

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            #6
            I´m curious on the result of the discussion.

            I had this clasp in my own collection for several years now and I never had any doubt about it ....

            Of course, as long as there is no clear for this clasp, is it no longer for sale.

            Best wishes

            Joerg

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              #7
              I think that the concern over this Spange is due to its resemblance to this well-known fake. Note the similarities between the uneven spaces between the eagles' heads and their wings, the asymmetry of the lower wing feathers, and the shapes of the date numbers.
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              George

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                #8
                let me get this clear then...
                Frank and George, you both agree this L/16 on estand is 100% correct?

                this is a new one one me, so excuse me for being suspicious! and 'possibly' incorrect in my initial posting!
                regards
                jon

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                  #9
                  Imo

                  No, I don't think that the e-Stand Spange is correct. I think that it's an example of the fake I posted.
                  George

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                    #10
                    Any more opinions on the Spange???

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                      #11
                      I think this says a lot about L/16 Spanges. I have one also that does not match the one offered on E-stand. The one I have looks just like the one determined to be good on this thread.

                      http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...=l%2F16+spange

                      The one on E-stand is not the same as the one in "Iron Time" as well.
                      Last edited by Dennis GT; 07-11-2005, 08:15 AM.

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                        #12
                        Here is an "L/16" currently being offered by Helmut Weitze (Item # 58765).
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                        George

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                          #13
                          Reverse.
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                          George

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                            #14
                            well, that's 3+ versions of an L/16 spange shown already!

                            regards
                            jon

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                              #15
                              Do not see it.

                              The picture posted by George Stimson of the L/16 currently being offered by Helmut Weitze, I can not see the makers mark at all.

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