e-Stand Spangen

[George Stimson]

The Second Class Spangen being offered here http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=109818 have been brought to my attention. Are they good/bad? Discuss.

[tinmantis]

Well, I hate to say it, but I believe the L/16 is an out and out fake, and been doing the rounds for years. I have never seen an original L/16 spange ( although I have a stickpin!) I've seen ones that look pretty convincing, but still very dubious IMHO.
The unmarked one is a strange one. We have had a member show this style before, and it was given the by the powers that be. I cannot remember who proved it to be real, but I have a pic of it in my 'real' files...
regards
jon

[J G]

I have a spange that was discussed here and fell into the L16 debate. This spange looks different again. Does anyone have an authentic L/16 spange? George, you have a number of spangen, do you own one?

[Frank Heukemes]

The unmarked one with the weird looking date is definitely 100% original. They appear in untouched groupings.
The L/16 one is difficult, but I would give it a chance, I personally like it.

[George Stimson]

I agree that the second example is good.
Here, for ease of discussion, is the "L/16."

[stdub]

I´m curious on the result of the discussion.

I had this clasp in my own collection for several years now and I never had any doubt about it ....

Of course, as long as there is no clear for this clasp, is it no longer for sale.

Best wishes

Joerg

[George Stimson]

I think that the concern over this Spange is due to its resemblance to this well-known fake. Note the similarities between the uneven spaces between the eagles' heads and their wings, the asymmetry of the lower wing feathers, and the shapes of the date numbers.

[tinmantis]

let me get this clear then...
Frank and George, you both agree this L/16 on estand is 100% correct?

this is a new one one me, so excuse me for being suspicious! and 'possibly' incorrect in my initial posting!
regards
jon

[George Stimson]

Imo

No, I don't think that the e-Stand Spange is correct. I think that it's an example of the fake I posted.

[stdub]

Any more opinions on the Spange???

[Dennis GT]

I think this says a lot about L/16 Spanges. I have one also that does not match the one offered on E-stand. The one I have looks just like the one determined to be good on this thread.

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...=l%2F16+spange

The one on E-stand is not the same as the one in "Iron Time" as well.

[George Stimson]

Here is an "L/16" currently being offered by Helmut Weitze (Item # 58765).

[George Stimson]

Reverse.

[tinmantis]

well, that's 3+ versions of an L/16 spange shown already!

regards
jon

[Dennis GT]

Do not see it.

The picture posted by George Stimson of the L/16 currently being offered by Helmut Weitze, I can not see the makers mark at all.