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    #421
    Thank you both Tom and Dietrich for bringing your most valuable knowledge and information to this thread.

    Another one: this set is displayed at the Celler-Garnison Museum. I can't ID the RKT on the back...
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      #422
      Originally posted by Dietrich Maerz View Post
      Hello Tom,

      I am absolutely sure that you are mistaken here. His wartime cross survived the captivity as well as his B-type Diamonds. The A-typewas always home. The story of the RK was already covered in the book "Holt Hartmann vom Himmel", the sets are shown in my RK book. I wasat the home of the current owner and saw the pictures of Hartmann, the new owner and the medals (RK, EL, ELmS, Diamonds, Flugbuch, pilot and observer wit diamonds and both his 1957 ribbon bars, he had two)

      Dietrich
      That is not the memory I have of our conversation. Since it was in 1981, I guess I could be mistaken however I know I asked to see his Knights Cross, but don't remember seeing a war time RK, only a 57 cross with the diamonds ??? Tom

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        #423
        Originally posted by Sepp45 View Post
        Karl Herzog
        Another of Herzog.
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          #424
          Martin Steglich
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            #425
            Martin Steglich, Heinz-Georg Lemm and Walther-Peer Fellgiebel
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              #426
              Originally posted by Sepp45 View Post
              Martin Steglich
              His ribbon bar
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                #427
                Originally posted by Sepp45 View Post
                Thanks Tom

                Here's a photo of his '57 cross.
                For sure not the original Diamonds, neither A nor B . They are pictured in my RK book as well as Stephen Previtera's.

                Dietrich
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                  #428
                  Originally posted by Dietrich Maerz View Post
                  For sure not the original Diamonds, neither A nor B . They are pictured in my RK book as well as Stephen Previtera's.

                  Dietrich
                  So you can tell by this photo probably taken in the 70's by Hartmann that these are fakes ? About an hour ago I was shown a book about Hartmann with this photo pictured in it. I don't know why ?

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                    #429
                    I guess what Dietrich wanted to say is:

                    Hartmann didn't wear his awarded diamonds together with his 57er KC.

                    Best regards

                    Nils

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                      #430
                      Originally posted by GHP View Post
                      Hanna Reitsch
                      From a video interview, his two '57 editions.
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                        #431
                        Some more photos of Chancellor Konrad Adenauer's funeral.
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                          #432
                          Originally posted by Tom B View Post
                          So you can tell by this photo probably taken in the 70's by Hartmann that these are fakes ? About an hour ago I was shown a book about Hartmann with this photo pictured in it. I don't know why ?
                          I did not use the word fake. All I said is that the "Diamonds" on the picture are neither his B-Type nor his A-Type. If one knows how they look, it is very obvious and easy to see.

                          Dietrich
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                            #433
                            Originally posted by Tom B View Post
                            I do believe it's Wolfram Kertz. Probably attending as a Representative of the OdR. I know he did such things as a high official of the OdR. Tom
                            Tom you are quite correct this is Wolfram Kertz and he was attending the rededication of Rebane's grave as Vorsitzender of the OdR !!

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                              #434
                              Originally posted by Sepp45 View Post
                              Some RKTs, names?

                              (Photo credits http://www.flickr.com/photos/4828470...7629114334326/)
                              Post 404 Top is August Kaminski and bottom one of the RKT who recommended me for OdR membership Max Zastrow

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                                #435
                                Originally posted by Sepp45 View Post
                                I don't think so Lev, because Nugiseks wore his uniform during the ceremony. Here's a pic.

                                Thanks anyway

                                Post 392 , To the right of Rebane's grave is Estonian Waffen SS Veteran Harri Rent.

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