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    57 rk

    My first 57 RK.

    First core, C frame.

    Both loop and reverse marked 800.

    Wayne
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    #2
    Wayne, my friend ...

    If there is one thing I can enjoy looking at ... its an 1st pattern core S&L RK.
    And I must say, for a "C" frame you have picked and exceptional looking piece.

    Not sure if you know, but you have the "C" frame which already shows the "bleeding flaw" on the 9 o'clock arm ( see red circle ).
    Up till now I have only seen it on 2nd pattern core S&L RK's ... hence a scarcer variant on the "C" frame which is still missing from my collection .

    Thanks for sharing ... please, do post more close-ups of this lovely piece.

    Grtz
    Mathijs
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    Last edited by Matthieu; 08-13-2011, 11:34 AM.

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      #3
      Thanks Mathijs.

      I knew it was a C frame but didn't realize there was more to it.

      I've just started collecting 57ers.

      Bitten by the bug already.

      Only have 5 pieces. The RK, EKI, EKII and a bronze and silver IAB.

      Wayne

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        #4
        Two more pictures.

        Wayne
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          #5
          Congrats, neighbour....that RK is surely a beauty.

          And a happy birthday to you Mathijs!

          Cheers,

          Bill

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            #6
            Thanks Bill.

            Wayne

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              #7
              Always nice to see a 1st pattern core Ritterkreuz

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                #8
                ... but I am wondering about the marked loop ??

                Never seen on 57er RKs ??

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Arthur Spooner View Post
                  ... but I am wondering about the marked loop ??

                  Never seen on 57er RKs ??

                  Good question.

                  Maybe some of the more experienced 57 collectors could enlighten us.

                  Wayne

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                    #10
                    interesting RK!!!
                    The loop i think must be a later replacement? ( unless its a wartimer)
                    There are a couple of things about the RK, including the combo of 1st pattern core with a well flawed C frame, that makes me think this could possibly be a later piece made from various leftover parts, Mathijs already has examples of this, including a B and a C frame on the same cross!!!
                    Still a great RK, and even more interesting because of the unusual mix!!!!
                    -Nigel
                    sigpic 57ers...."The Devil Is In The Detail"

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                      #11
                      Any educated guesses as to the period of manufacture?

                      Wayne

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                        #12
                        I'd say early to mid 60's, if i'm right about it being a combination of the, then current production C frame, coupled with an earlier 1st pattern core!
                        If the C frame appeared earlier than i thought, then it could be late 50's early 60's, i'd like to hear what the other guys think??
                        Looking at the photo's, the core paint, especially on the reverse looks a little later than the finish found on the very early pieces??
                        -Nigel
                        sigpic 57ers...."The Devil Is In The Detail"

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                          #13
                          Thanks Nigel.

                          57's are interesting for sure.

                          Wayne

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                            #14
                            Looking at the width of the loop, I assume its a modern reproduction ( you can find them on eBay ).
                            I have not yet come across a "800" marked loop on the 57ers ... normally they come with a slim silver plated loop.

                            By the way .... would that be the one which sold on e-stand some time ago by Trevor ?

                            Grtz
                            Mathijs

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                              #15
                              It was.

                              We did a swap.

                              Wayne

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