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    #16
    Interesting observation Norm.
    pseudo-expert

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      #17
      I don't believe that this badge was made by S & L.

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        #18
        Would that mark then be a distributor's mark?
        pseudo-expert

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          #19
          Originally posted by Ralph Arndt View Post
          I don't believe that this badge was made by S & L.

          I assume you mean your opening post badge. No, I don’t either. Just a copy of the S&L design later on in the post-zinc era.

          Best regards,
          —-Norm

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            #20
            Originally posted by Don D. View Post
            Would that mark then be a distributor's mark?
            I second Don?

            And Norm, I must say I’m impressed by you knowing so well your area!
            Great database!
            Thank You!

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              #21
              Originally posted by Norm F View Post
              I assume you mean your opening post badge. No, I don’t either. Just a copy of the S&L design later on in the post-zinc era.

              Best regards,
              —-Norm
              So you are saying both U Boat Badges are post WW Two ?

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                #22
                Originally posted by Ralph Arndt View Post
                So you are saying both U Boat Badges are post WW Two ?
                Hi Ralph,

                I’m suggesting that all three U-boat badges with the “cross over M” mark and also the unmarked solid Tombak U-boat badge from Kai Winkler’s site are post-WW2.

                Put another way, every badge shown in this thread so far is post-WW2 except for your original Tombak Schott badge (with the replaced main pin) and the original Tombak hollow-back U-boat by S&L.

                Best regards,
                —-Norm

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                  #23
                  Thanks.

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                    #24
                    Hi Norm,

                    Do you think that the design with the straight ribbon holding the wraith is post ww2? Or are there legit versions of that design (manufactured before 1945)? Is it linked to a specific maker?

                    Thanks for the nice comparison.

                    Michel

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by morel5000 View Post
                      Hi Norm,

                      Do you think that the design with the straight ribbon holding the wraith is post ww2? Or are there legit versions of that design (manufactured before 1945)? Is it linked to a specific maker?

                      Michel
                      Hi Michel,

                      I assume you're talking about the plain vertical ribbon just underneath the crown. That's a good question.

                      It's not the design of any of the currently known makers (Schott, Meybauer, AWS, Juncker, S&L, Deumer and supposedly Beco) and most of the examples of this type seem to be fakes, but could it have been copied from an unknown wartime design?

                      Here's what I think is another fake (on the red background) but below it a zinc example with a more convincing reverse setup that I'm not so sure about. For now I'll keep an open mind.

                      Best regards,
                      ---Norm
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                        #26
                        Here's another "plain ribbon" fake like the "cross over M" badges but with a different setup and spurious "2" mark in the pin.

                        Best regards,
                        ---Norm
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