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    #1

    Non-combatant medalbar to stir debate....

    Hi guys...
    Another weirdie for us to kick around. Are we having fun yet?
    Here's a non-combatant medalbar with abandoned black/white ribbon instead of the regulation white /black for non combatants.
    The give away is the Hindenburg Cross without swords.
    As always....Comments or brick bats welcome.
    Enjoy!

    Tony
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    "First ponder, then dare." von Moltke
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    Closeup of the EK with not your run of the mill crown.
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    An opinion should be the result of thought, not a substitute for it.

    "First ponder, then dare." von Moltke

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      #3
      I really like the fact that the awards are sewn in to limit the swing on this unmolested medalbar.
      But the sewing prevents getting a full view of the reverse of the EK.
      It is what it is.....
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      An opinion should be the result of thought, not a substitute for it.

      "First ponder, then dare." von Moltke

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        #4
        Last one...a straight on view of this beautiful (to me anyway) Iron Cross.
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        An opinion should be the result of thought, not a substitute for it.

        "First ponder, then dare." von Moltke

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          #5
          Now I always thought the white dominant ribbon was for EK's awarded to civilians exclusively whereas military personnel in non-combat roles who were awarded EK's received the normal black dominant ribbon. Am I mistaken?

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            #6
            Originally posted by Ron P View Post
            Now I always thought the white dominant ribbon was for EK's awarded to civilians exclusively whereas military personnel in non-combat roles who were awarded EK's received the normal black dominant ribbon. Am I mistaken?
            Yes. I believe, if they were in a combat zone they got the regular ribbon. This guy could have been a medic in the front line.

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              #7
              Nice bar, Tony! I think the WMC w/o Swords helps support the "black/white" non-com award as well. He was likely in a similar roll throughout both wars.
              Last edited by Brian R; 04-14-2016, 09:15 PM.

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                #8
                Originally posted by bolewts58 View Post
                Yes. I believe, if they were in a combat zone they got the regular ribbon. This guy could have been a medic in the front line.
                Agreed. I have one of these combos to a doctor.
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Brian R View Post
                  Agreed. I have one of these combos to a doctor.
                  What a beauty....I'll trade ya.
                  An opinion should be the result of thought, not a substitute for it.

                  "First ponder, then dare." von Moltke

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                    #10
                    Here's another non com bar with black/white ribbon and a no sword Hindy.
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                    An opinion should be the result of thought, not a substitute for it.

                    "First ponder, then dare." von Moltke

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                      #11
                      I like this bar because the EK is one piece , and the two crosses are carefully indexed to each other with the top line of the upper arm straight across.
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                      An opinion should be the result of thought, not a substitute for it.

                      "First ponder, then dare." von Moltke

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by bolewts58 View Post
                        Yes. I believe, if they were in a combat zone they got the regular ribbon. This guy could have been a medic in the front line.
                        Interesting. Do you remember how that info came about?
                        An opinion should be the result of thought, not a substitute for it.

                        "First ponder, then dare." von Moltke

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                          #13
                          Brian,

                          I agree with your acessment about the WMC w/o S on the bsr.
                          An opinion should be the result of thought, not a substitute for it.

                          "First ponder, then dare." von Moltke

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                            #14
                            I think that non-combatants who were within a certain distance from the front had an option on which version of the EK they wanted (or they defaulted to the combatant version). I do not have a source to back my assertion. I am just parroting what I read on a forum over the years by knowledgeable members. Regardless, their true role was denoted on their HK.

                            I love NC EK2s!
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                            Last edited by PaulR; 04-14-2016, 10:27 PM.

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                              #15
                              Here is what I was told about non-combat ribbons---

                              1) Anyone serving outside the boarders of Germany, Clerics, doctors, mechanics,
                              railwaymen, Government officials, ect. got the black / white ribbon.

                              2) Govt. officials, Doctors ect, serving within the boarders of Germany got
                              the white / black ribbon.

                              3) Military men within the boarders of Germany, having done some meritoris
                              MILITARY service (no real bravery) could also get a black ribbon cross for service
                              on the home front.

                              So a white ribbon cross was for a Doctor, Govt. official, clergy ect working inside
                              Germany.

                              Thanks to Chris B. for his help on this.


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                              Last edited by gregM; 04-14-2016, 11:21 PM.

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