Non-combatant medalbar to stir debate....

[Tiger 1]

Hi guys...
Another weirdie for us to kick around. Are we having fun yet?
Here's a non-combatant medalbar with abandoned black/white ribbon instead of the regulation white /black for non combatants.
The give away is the Hindenburg Cross without swords.
As always....Comments or brick bats welcome.
Enjoy!

Tony

[Tiger 1]

Closeup of the EK with not your run of the mill crown.

[Tiger 1]

I really like the fact that the awards are sewn in to limit the swing on this unmolested medalbar.
But the sewing prevents getting a full view of the reverse of the EK.
It is what it is.....

[Tiger 1]

Last one...a straight on view of this beautiful (to me anyway) Iron Cross.

[Ron P]

Now I always thought the white dominant ribbon was for EK's awarded to civilians exclusively whereas military personnel in non-combat roles who were awarded EK's received the normal black dominant ribbon. Am I mistaken?

[Brian L.]

Now I always thought the white dominant ribbon was for EK's awarded to civilians exclusively whereas military personnel in non-combat roles who were awarded EK's received the normal black dominant ribbon. Am I mistaken?

Yes. I believe, if they were in a combat zone they got the regular ribbon. This guy could have been a medic in the front line.

[Brian R]

Nice bar, Tony! I think the WMC w/o Swords helps support the "black/white" non-com award as well. He was likely in a similar roll throughout both wars.

[Brian R]

Yes. I believe, if they were in a combat zone they got the regular ribbon. This guy could have been a medic in the front line.

Agreed. I have one of these combos to a doctor.

[Tiger 1]

Agreed. I have one of these combos to a doctor.

What a beauty....I'll trade ya.

[Tiger 1]

Here's another non com bar with black/white ribbon and a no sword Hindy.

[Tiger 1]

I like this bar because the EK is one piece , and the two crosses are carefully indexed to each other with the top line of the upper arm straight across.

[Tiger 1]

Yes. I believe, if they were in a combat zone they got the regular ribbon. This guy could have been a medic in the front line.

Interesting. Do you remember how that info came about?

[Tiger 1]

Brian,

I agree with your acessment about the WMC w/o S on the bsr.

[PaulR]

I think that non-combatants who were within a certain distance from the front had an option on which version of the EK they wanted (or they defaulted to the combatant version). I do not have a source to back my assertion. I am just parroting what I read on a forum over the years by knowledgeable members. Regardless, their true role was denoted on their HK.

I love NC EK2s!

[gregM]

Here is what I was told about non-combat ribbons---

1) Anyone serving outside the boarders of Germany, Clerics, doctors, mechanics,
railwaymen, Government officials, ect. got the black / white ribbon.

2) Govt. officials, Doctors ect, serving within the boarders of Germany got
the white / black ribbon.

3) Military men within the boarders of Germany, having done some meritoris
MILITARY service (no real bravery) could also get a black ribbon cross for service
on the home front.

So a white ribbon cross was for a Doctor, Govt. official, clergy ect working inside
Germany.

Thanks to Chris B. for his help on this.


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