Help with identifying award certificate

[Peter R.]

Don't know anything about imperial awards, but hope somebody here can help me identify this family heirloom. If I can find out what the medal in question was, I'd like to try and find one. I assume it's just a regular 'been there done that' medal for a war in 1864 - unfortunately my ignorance of imperial Austria/Germany is so bad that I don't even recall from my history lessons what that war was all about.

Can't make out what the written info says either - I think it identifies the regiment (or unit of some kind) that he was part of. Any ideas?

Scan of the document is here:
http://www.fuseboxdesign.com/certificate_passmann.jpg

I'd downsize it to fit here, but it seems like the writing would get too small to really be legible if I did that.

Thanks for any help!

[Christian L]

hy peter,
its an award document for the austrian commemorance medal for combatanten for the 1864 war.
nice document!
christian

[Peter R.]

hy peter,
its an award document for the austrian commemorance medal for combatanten for the 1864 war.
nice document!
christian

Many thanks - thought it looked like that kind of thing.

Is there perhaps a similar forum to this one where I could find out some more about the 1864 war, this medal, and other associated militaria?

Cheers,
Peter

[Tim Tezer]

While I can't quite make out the entire inked inscription, it appears that he was in the 3rd Company, ____??? Pioneer Battalion #7. Not sure what that one word is.

Here is a pretty good site with information on the 1864 conflict:

http://www.zum.de/whkmla/military/19...anwar1864.html

Tim

[Peter R.]

Thanks Tim, I appreciate your help!

Cheers,
Peter

[John Harman]

Thanks Tim, I appreciate your help!

Cheers,
Peter

I believe its "Westphalischen" Pionier Battalion No.7.

Nice document!

[Peter R.]

I believe its "Westphalischen" Pionier Battalion No.7.

Nice document!

Ah, I love the collected knowledge of this forum. Am going to look that battallion up.

The document is pretty cool, and I'm going to try and find one of those medals to buy in order to keep it with the document. Although being a family thing, it won't be sold, I'll have to attach some note to it though to make sure that it never gets sold as being THE medal that came with the document... I can see how unscrupulous characters can easily put together a fake 'group'.

[John Harman]

Here is the medal, made of the bronze of captured Danish cannon.

[Andy Baus]

The individual who signed the document was Gustav von Rohrscheidt (10.11.1820-30.03.1871). He was commander of Pionier Batl. Nr. 7 (Cologne) from 19.04.1864-30.10.1866, then commander of Pionier Batl. Nr. 9 (Harburg- near Hamburg) from 07.11.1866-03.04.1869. His last assignment was as the "Ingenieur vom Platz in Glogau"- the chief engineer officer in the Fortress of Glogau.

Andy

[Tom Y]

Here is the medal, made of the bronze of captured Danish cannon.

Actually the medal for thgis doc is the Austrian version with identical back but the cyphers reversed, i.e FJ-W.

[John Harman]

Why would this document be for the Austrian version; it is clearly a Prussian doc? Or am I missing something that should be obvious?

[Tom Y]

Why would this document be for the Austrian version; it is clearly a Prussian doc? Or am I missing something that should be obvious?

My mistake. Guess my fingers got detached fom my brain. It happens now and then