ek1 fake or 57 replacement?

[markp]

3 piece construction, same size as the 1939 cross , when the pin is opened we find a mm (on the pin) looks like a z?
would this be a 57 replacement or a good fake?

[Nigel N]

Hi Mark, it looks like you've got a 57er by Steinhauer & Luck, if its magnetic with solid hingeblock, it should be a mid to late 60's cross!!
-Nigel

[streptile]

I'm not so sure. There are fake cores out just now that look a lot like this, and that pin looks like an attempt to copy an S&L-style pin, rather than the real deal.

FAKE:

[markp]

thanks nigel,
pics supplied of the catch. Do you still think its a steinhauer?

[Nigel N]

Well, the hardware looks right for that period on an S & L EK, heres a couple of S & L EK1's from the mid to late 60's period......ek%20haul1%20%2820%29.jpg

ek%20haul1%20%2811%29.jpg

[Nigel N]

Is the core magnetic, and is the cross quite light in weight, and thin, to the point of being easily bent by hand??

[markp]

a better pic of catch, guys

yes its magnetic, and pretty thin , cheers nigel for pics

[Nigel N]

Thats a perfect match for the top one of the two pics i showed, also has the same bare metal backplate and brassy colored solder around hingeblock and catch, date around 67/68 i think!!
-Nigel

[speedytop]

Hi Nigel,

... it looks like you've got a 57er by Steinhauer & Luck

This is not and never correct.

It is a copy.

Uwe

[Nigel N]

Hi Uwe, ok, i'll call it a replacement piece by S & L, is that better???

[Montgomery Burns]

its gone be fun to see the evil copy discussion here on waf to
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regards kay.











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[speedytop]

Hi Nigel,

you can call it as you want, just not "original" or "57er".

EK 1914, manufactured after 1924, are always copies or fakes (not-original), regardless of the name you choose.

Uwe

[saschaw]

I'm not sure if this is one of the recent fakes or a ~ 1960s copy by St & L.

They are pretty close...

[Montgomery Burns]

hi nigel,

you can call it as you want, just not "original" or "57er".

Ek 1914, manufactured after 1924, are always copies or fakes (not-original), regardless of the name you choose.

Uwe

lets give you an example off fake and copy's

all produced after 1924 ,,,legally

Heeres Kleiderkasse 1939

[Montgomery Burns]

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