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    #1

    ek1 fake or 57 replacement?

    3 piece construction, same size as the 1939 cross , when the pin is opened we find a mm (on the pin) looks like a z?
    would this be a 57 replacement or a good fake?
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    #2
    Hi Mark, it looks like you've got a 57er by Steinhauer & Luck, if its magnetic with solid hingeblock, it should be a mid to late 60's cross!!
    -Nigel
    sigpic 57ers...."The Devil Is In The Detail"

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      #3
      I'm not so sure. There are fake cores out just now that look a lot like this, and that pin looks like an attempt to copy an S&L-style pin, rather than the real deal.

      FAKE:



      Best regards,
      Streptile

      Looking for ROUND BUTTON 1939 EK1 Spange cases (LDO or PKZ)

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        #4
        thanks nigel,
        pics supplied of the catch. Do you still think its a steinhauer?
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          #5
          Well, the hardware looks right for that period on an S & L EK, heres a couple of S & L EK1's from the mid to late 60's period......ek%20haul1%20%2820%29.jpg

          ek%20haul1%20%2811%29.jpg
          sigpic 57ers...."The Devil Is In The Detail"

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            #6
            Is the core magnetic, and is the cross quite light in weight, and thin, to the point of being easily bent by hand??
            sigpic 57ers...."The Devil Is In The Detail"

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              #7
              a better pic of catch, guys

              yes its magnetic, and pretty thin , cheers nigel for pics
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                #8
                Thats a perfect match for the top one of the two pics i showed, also has the same bare metal backplate and brassy colored solder around hingeblock and catch, date around 67/68 i think!!
                -Nigel
                sigpic 57ers...."The Devil Is In The Detail"

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                  #9
                  Hi Nigel,

                  ... it looks like you've got a 57er by Steinhauer & Luck
                  This is not and never correct.

                  It is a copy.

                  Uwe

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                    #10
                    Hi Uwe, ok, i'll call it a replacement piece by S & L, is that better???
                    sigpic 57ers...."The Devil Is In The Detail"

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                      #11
                      its gone be fun to see the evil copy discussion here on waf to
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                      regards kay.











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                        #12
                        Hi Nigel,

                        you can call it as you want, just not "original" or "57er".

                        EK 1914, manufactured after 1924, are always copies or fakes (not-original), regardless of the name you choose.

                        Uwe

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                          #13
                          I'm not sure if this is one of the recent fakes or a ~ 1960s copy by St & L.

                          They are pretty close...
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by speedytop View Post
                            hi nigel,

                            you can call it as you want, just not "original" or "57er".

                            Ek 1914, manufactured after 1924, are always copies or fakes (not-original), regardless of the name you choose.

                            Uwe
                            lets give you an example off fake and copy's

                            all produced after 1924 ,,,legally

                            Heeres Kleiderkasse 1939
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                            Last edited by Montgomery Burns; 05-08-2010, 08:59 AM.

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