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    #16
    I'm not so sure that case is period, looks a lot like the 1916 type case, although the cross on the outside of the lid appears to be earlier. Could we see more photos of the case?

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      #17
      Originally posted by Andy K. View Post
      Here comes a better photo of a genuine Wagner EK I 1870.
      And that's what makes this forum such an invaluable tool. Objective criticism by experienced collectors.
      Last edited by ObltKG4; 10-06-2009, 05:35 PM.

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        #18
        Dear All, your time here is very much appreciated so far...very generous of you all indeed.

        Vince, More pics of the case follow, interested in your thoughts on this given Andy & Sascha's comments?

        Cheers,

        S
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        Last edited by Steve P; 10-06-2009, 06:55 PM.
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          #19
          I agree with Sascha on the case, it looks correct for an 1870 EK1 based on the few I've seen. The major difference from the WWI examples is the imprint of the EK motif on the lid. The 1870s I've seen have a distinct design with very flared arms and a very narrow center, as yours does. Have you held it under a blacklight?
          Best regards,
          Streptile

          Looking for ROUND BUTTON 1939 EK1 Spange cases (LDO or PKZ)

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            #20
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              #21
              Pic #3
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                #22
                Pic #4
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                  #23
                  Hi Trevor, Under black light it appears to have the characteristics of a piece from the correct time period. S
                  Cheers, Steve
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                    #24
                    For me is that case also from 1870/71.

                    Greetings Mike

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                      #25
                      Case for an EK I 1870

                      Here is a photo of a genuine case for an EK I 1870.

                      Andy
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                        #26
                        Cases for an EK II 1870 and EK I 1870

                        Here is an archives photo of a genuine case of an EK II 1870 and a case of a EK I 1870.

                        The main characteristic of an genuine case for an EK 1870 is the small gilt cross on the top of the case.

                        Andy
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                        Last edited by Andy K.; 10-07-2009, 02:20 PM. Reason: word correction

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                          #27
                          Case for an EK I 1870

                          And lastly a photo of another genuine case of an EK I 1870.

                          This is the early type of 1870 case with the round corners. Please, see the difference to post #25.

                          Andy
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                            #28
                            Thanks for showing those cases, Alex. Can we see inside the 2nd Class case please ?
                            Best regards,
                            Streptile

                            Looking for ROUND BUTTON 1939 EK1 Spange cases (LDO or PKZ)

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                              #29
                              Case for an EK II 1870

                              Here are some photos of a genuine case of an EK II 1870 from my collection.

                              Andy

                              1. Top of the case.
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                                #30
                                Case for an EK II 1870

                                2. Case lock.
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