it's a Frankenstein as the 4th pic makes obvious
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Mike
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last, poor 835 stampRegards
Mike
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Thanks Mike.
The fakers are certainly getting more creative.
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In case it's been missed, the KMST Frankenstein is at 304 Euro with 5h to go: 291144477064Regards
Mike
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Amazing, 849 Euro closing priceRegards
Mike
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Slimcase and other permutations of the Club.
An interesting but ultimately bad fake, I don't want to give the arse hole any more clues but take a good look. He has other new ebay accounts selling similar crap again.
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Both these badges (shown in post #62 & #62) are now identified as post war Assmann/St u L made Imperial veteran replacement awards, NOT out & out repros, as I.D.'d mistakenly back in 2004 , now highly collectable ! Hope you kept them BobbyOriginally posted by Bobby lee View Post
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Feel free to start a discussion thread in the appropriate forum.pseudo-expertComment
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Already have Don, here http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=752127Originally posted by Don D. View Post
these and other Inperial post war replacements are discussed with regards their appearance and more importantly the rear hardware.............
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Hi Steve,
Does that change anything? They are definitely not originals, and we call such not original pieces copies or fakes, see at the top "IMPERIAL FAKES".Both these badges (shown in post #62 & #62) are now identified as post war Assmann/St u L made Imperial veteran replacement awards, NOT out & out repros, as I.D.'d mistakenly back in 2004 , now highly collectable !
What is the difference, the quality? We all know, that there are on the market nice not original pieces and ugly not original pieces. But that does not change the birth. Nice or ugly, they are not originals.
And "Imperial veteran replacement awards" are definitely not original pieces.
I accept, that we can call them reproduction pieces (repros), that sounds more friendly than copies or fakes; in German these are "Kopien".
And repros are "now highly collectable"? For whom? Could it be, only for 57er collectors? I have my problem, to understand all that.
That is your characterization for the collectors here in this section, see Post 9 here http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=758368Exactly !
I have seen it happen not only here but on many forums......ignorance, until we came along
see post 262 here http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ad.php?t=38109
By the way, the "1918 Airgunners badge" as "Imperial post war replacement" in your linked thread is a nice repro.
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Uwe, I see it this way, nicely put by another collector on another forum...................
"New pieces (official or sanctioned) are not fake or reproduction. They are legitimate pieces that have been produced at a different time, thus a 1914 Iron Cross produced in 1939 is just as official as that from the time. So an Iron Cross 1914 produced in 1960 is just from another period"........... I feel this to be true of any countries medals/awards re struck (officially or sanctioned) for either veterans or collectors.... on this and future occasion's I must agree to disagree.
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Hi Steve,
Where can I find a primary official source, that it was "official or sanctioned", to produce an EK 1914 in 1960?(official or sanctioned)
Definitely not in the German law from 1957.
It was and is not the purpose of the law, to produce copies/repros (or whatever you want to call these not original pieces).
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DeschlerSohn Fake EK1
Old thread: http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...rSohn+fake+ek1
I see they are still making their rounds on the favorite selling avenues:Comment
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1870 stickpin
Thought I would add this to the thread.. I bought an 1870 stick pin but upon inspection it's on a third reich pin (soldered into the disc and not too of ek on other examples I've seen) and the details look a bit offComment
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Could you post pics of this stick pin?Comment
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