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    #31
    More dagger boxes

    This picture shows boxes for Navy daggers, again the top one is for the early pattern dagger and the other two are later. kind of but useful to know!
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      #32
      Sabre stuff

      Here are two examples of sabres one unissued still in its sealed bag, the other, earlier and used, both have stamped serial numbers on the back of the crossguard
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        #33
        sabre stuff

        Closer shot of the hilts showing variations in shape and wire
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          #34
          sabre stuff

          variations in scabbard trails
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            #35
            sabre stuff

            Now this is unusual, a sabre certificate!!!
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              #36
              sabre stuff

              And finally two variants of sabre slings, the top one is the more common, but any form of sabre sling is quite difficult to come across.
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                #37
                Thanks for your very interesting thread.

                2 questions :

                What is the method to wear the saber ?

                Who made the sabers you can easely find on the market ?

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                  #38
                  Wow.

                  Nice David. You are absolutely "Spot-on" - A sabre certificate is quite unique. Very impressive - even the boxes.

                  I noticed you seem to have a lot of multiples. I think maybe you should unload some of that burden

                  Cheers,
                  Michael D. GALLAGHER

                  M60-A2 Tank Commander Cold War proverb: “You can accomplish more with a kind word and a ‘Shillelagh’ than you can with just a kind word.”

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Panzer Fuehrer
                    Wow.

                    I noticed you seem to have a lot of multiples. I think maybe you should unload some of that burden

                    Cheers,
                    Cut back!!!!! I can hardly equip a single battalion as it is!!!!!!!!!
                    Besides I need lots of different coloured dagger boxes as you never know which colour is going to be in fashion next season.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Garulfo
                      2 questions :

                      What is the method to wear the saber ?

                      Who made the sabers you can easely find on the market ?
                      1.Normally the sling goes over the right shoulder, then comes through a slit in the jacket just under the left pocket flap.

                      2. The unissued sabre has VEB Jagd-und Schneidwaren, Steinweg 50, Muhlhausen stamp, the same as you find on alot of daggers.

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Michael D. Gallagher
                        The early production NVA Parade Daggers had a maker's mark on the blade, opposite to the side on which appeared the serial number:
                        Didn't later ones have any ?? The reason why I am asking this is that I have a dagger, presumebly from 1987, that also has this mark !!

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                          #42
                          Hi Oliviier,

                          What is it about the Dagger that gives you cause to believe it was produced in 1987? I'm betting even though you haven't yet said so, that your Dagger has papers with it....

                          How about some pics and then it might be possible that more can be determined relevant to your question that you have posed?
                          Michael D. GALLAGHER

                          M60-A2 Tank Commander Cold War proverb: “You can accomplish more with a kind word and a ‘Shillelagh’ than you can with just a kind word.”

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                            #43
                            I was gone in 1990 to the daggers factory in Muhlhausen. I catched some complet daggers in cases for 146,- DM (~ 75,- €) / piece. But I couldt not buy more. The other 500 (or more) pieces there I have seen, was reserved for shipping to Hamburg.

                            But I can´t take a NVA saber....

                            Eagle

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                              #44
                              Mike, no it has no papers... the seller told me it was from 1987 and from an officer whose name is engraved at the back of the sheath; The handle is of later type : solid white/cream color handle. I got it about 10 ysr ago.
                              Will shoot pics and mail them to you !

                              Originally posted by Michael D. Gallagher
                              Hi Oliviier,

                              What is it about the Dagger that gives you cause to believe it was produced in 1987? I'm betting even though you haven't yet said so, that your Dagger has papers with it....

                              How about some pics and then it might be possible that more can be determined relevant to your question that you have posed?

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                                #45
                                Olivier,

                                Is the blade serial numbered?

                                I ask because I'm wondering if perhaps the Honor Dagger was assembled from parts of different batches? The blade for instance could be of much ealier production than the pommel and hand guard.

                                These Daggers are an example of what was wrong with the Government enforced "Quota" system inherent to the Communist way of doing things. Commodities that were very much needed were in short supply, and something as mundane as an Honor Dagger was produced in numbers that border on the "Extreme".
                                Michael D. GALLAGHER

                                M60-A2 Tank Commander Cold War proverb: “You can accomplish more with a kind word and a ‘Shillelagh’ than you can with just a kind word.”

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