Yes, that’s the one thanks. The guy I got a lot of my DDR stuff from back in 1992 had one – but he wasn’t selling!
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PF,
Thank you for the link and the explaination. How much could I expect to pay for an East German sword if I found a dealer with one? I have seen repros on Ebay(as of a few months ago) with the only difference being the national seal was in color. Are these the only repros at this time?
Thanks again
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RE: NVA Parade Sword
Hi Paul,
I would expect a real, genuine NVA Sword in very good condition to go for between $1000 and $1300 American easily.
Reproductions: I've seen four different types on ebay. Only one in my opinion was worth spending money for. The other three just didn't hold up muster, even from afar.
Unfortunately, some of the repros are being sold as the real thing, and the asking price reflects that.
A good reproduction should only go for 2 or 3 hundred dollars IMO.
Another issue with Swords would be Post Nov 1989 production models. How should they be classified? If they are of completely 100% bonified material made to original specs on original tool and die, are they repro? Should they sell for approximately what the real deal would sell for?
Lots of issues to which I don't have the answers.
Michael D. GALLAGHER
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NVA parade daggers
Hey, I like your DDR/NVA dagger collection!!!!
Especially the early DDR parade dagger!!!!
ALL THUMBS UP!!!!! Clearly the best one dagger grouping I ever seen in my 10 year collecting career. Impressive!!!!! James(redjames)
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RE: Response to James
Hi James,
Thanks. I thought I'd post this thread as sort of a NVA Honor (Parade) Dagger 101 Class. The aboslute hardest Dagger to acquire relevant completion of the set was the Naval Field Grade/Company Grade Dagger and accompanying Hanger. I've been looking for ever for both. When I finally got it, I was startled to find that it was of the very early vintage model with the gold metal alloy plate. Very nice indeed.
The other "Alt" Dagger and Hanger (Army one) are a set. Awhile back I acquired a 58 Rear Services Dark Collar Ensemble, but the Visor Hat had a staatswappen, and not a bullseye, indicating the wearer/owner was still serving at the transition period. I had a decision to make. Get a real bullseye insignia for the hat or acquire a 61/62 Parade Dagger Set. I opted for the latter to keep the set legite to the original wearer. Again lady luck was with me and I was able to locate and acquire the type of Parade Dagger and Hanger needed for the Uniform Ensemble. Somebody somewhere likes me.Michael D. GALLAGHER
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I never realized that there that many variations with the dagger hangers. I've owned two daggers in the past (wish I had kept them!
) One came in a blue paper box and the other one came in a green paper box. Actually, I plan on making my next "big" purchase another DDR dagger.
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Hi Roy,
Yes, as you can see, the different DDR military organizations that were authorized to wear the Honor Dagger, each had a distinctive type Hanger. And within the NVA Army, Air Force, Air Defense, Grenztruppen, and again the Volksmarine, the Dagger Hanger again was different for the Field/Company grade levels officers from that of the General and Admiral Dagger Hangers. The Daggers and Hangers also varied between very early productions, and subsequent newer productions. This was the purpose behind my thread - to address the numerous types and their differences.
Michael D. GALLAGHER
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RE: Honor Dagger Hangers - Old vs. New
There are destinctive differences between the first production Honor Daggers and the subsequent later produced variants. Likewise, these same differences were apparent in the Honor Dagger Hangers. The early production Hangers resembled to a degree, closely resembled the similar styled Wehrmacht Dagger Hangers. Following are detailed photos showing the differences between the early production Hangers and subsequent later production variants.Michael D. GALLAGHER
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RE: Reverse
Reverse: Hanger on top is the early type:Michael D. GALLAGHER
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Closeup of Strap Connectors (Right is early hanger)Last edited by Michael D. Gallagher; 03-12-2006, 02:29 PM.Michael D. GALLAGHER
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ReverseLast edited by Michael D. Gallagher; 03-12-2006, 11:04 AM.Michael D. GALLAGHER
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Closeup of Buckles (Top Hanger is early type):Last edited by Michael D. Gallagher; 03-12-2006, 11:05 AM.Michael D. GALLAGHER
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Photo showing New production Hanger with New Production Brocade Parade Belt:Last edited by Michael D. Gallagher; 09-13-2005, 09:30 PM.Michael D. GALLAGHER
M60-A2 Tank Commander Cold War proverb: “You can accomplish more with a kind word and a ‘Shillelagh’ than you can with just a kind word.”Comment
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Photo showing Old Type Hanger with a 50s production Brocade Parade Belt. This particular Belt is part of a 1958 Rear Services Ensemble I have, and was the reason behind acquisition of the Older Honor Dagger and Hanger. Notice that the Loop that attaches the Hanger to the Belt is a perfect match to the Belt:Last edited by Michael D. Gallagher; 08-27-2005, 01:30 PM.Michael D. GALLAGHER
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Dagger boxes
This might start to get a bit boring, but what the hell! here are a few examples of army/airforce dagger boxes, the top two are for the early pattern dagger and I just love that typeface (very TR), the two below are later patterns (and yes all the boxes contain daggers.Comment
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