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    #16
    Another possibility is that wholesalers/distributors don't believe these would sell, so they aren't being picked up from the surplusing agencies. What doesn't get picked up from the supply source eventually ends up in the shredder, hence there is a dwindling supply of such items.

    This is the same question I often have about surplus materials from the "less common" countries, such as Warsaw Pact nations other than DDR and Czechoslovakia, or for that matter any country outside of Western Europe, the US, and Russia. An eBay seller from Hungary once told me that he personally saved a truckload of old caps and uniform items from destruction only because he happened to be assigned to the detail carrying out the said destruction. Although in this instance, it's more likely a case of bureaucratic fiat than actual market force at work.

    Similar events are probably turning more common 'junk' into potentially hard-to-find collectibles all over the world as we speak.

    Women, relative to men, just aren't all that interested in these things. When a small number of them do buy surplus materials for themselves, it's often to wear them as a fashion statement, and what they end up picking up are more likely to be men's uniforms rather than women's. So the bulk of the demand for surplus female uniforms comes from just a tiny percentage of collectors. If I were a wholesaler/distributor, that level of demand is unlikely to entice me into investing significantly in these niche items.


    Gene T

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      #17
      Steve,

      I think one of the main reasons that female uniforms are not more available is the lack of a market for them. I have met many military uniform collectors who have told me that they have no interest in collecting women's uniforms. Only those of men. Whithout a broader market dealers would not be interested in buying something they can not turn over quickly. It has only been recently that I have seen uniform collectors who are searching for women's uniforms.
      There are exceptions to this though. Airline stewardesses uniforms command high prices. More so than men's. Women's uniforms from the TR period also command a high price and are rare to find. The scarcity here was caused by women reworking their military uniforms after the war into a civilian style. I have an interesting example of this in my collection.

      Regards,

      Gordon

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        #18
        Thanks for the thoughts!

        I agree there's a much smaller market for female items. Especially because, until recently, they were limited to "desk jobs" and not field work. That's changed dramatically in the 2000s, of course. Collectors don't have a history of opportunities to be interested in female uniforms, so it will probably take a long time before there is widespread demand. I know I'm only interested in female uniforms to a very, very limited extent. The cut has to be completely different, not just shaped differently.

        Still... you would think that retired female service members would try to sell their kit on eBay just like their male counterparts. The value of a male BW clothing is pretty low because of the huge supply, and yet every day tons of it is put up for sale by individuals.

        I guess I can easily see the reasons why there isn't much available, but I am still puzzled why it's just about zero. At least recently with the changes in female duties, numbers, and the advent of eBay.

        Steve

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          #19
          Suitable for this diskussion ther is an actual auction at Vebeg, the federal surplus dealer selling all the stuff to Sturm & Co...:

          Tuchhosen u. a. (ca. 6,140 t)
          Menge
          ASD-Nr.

          Artikelbezeichnung

          Gewicht in kg

          6.721
          05510

          Hose, Heer

          3.360,500

          315
          05520

          Keilhose

          166,950

          2.618
          05530

          Hose, Lw

          1.492,260

          641
          05540

          Klapphose, dunkelblau

          493,570

          452
          05560

          Hose, Marine, dunkelblau

          280,240

          33
          05600

          Hose, Heer, Musikkorps

          18,480

          4
          05610

          Hose, Lw, Musikkorps

          2,280

          1
          05620

          Hose, Marine, Musikkorps

          0,570

          126
          05630

          Hose, Heer, weibl. Soldaten

          70,560

          13
          05640

          Rock, Heer, gerade

          7,280

          56
          05650

          Hose, Lw, weibl. Soldaten

          31,920

          1
          05660

          Rock, Lw, gerade

          0,560

          3
          05670

          Hose, Marine, weibl. Soldaten

          2,280

          1
          05680

          Rock, Marine, gerade

          0,560

          8
          05690

          Rock, Heer, ausgestellt

          4,480

          1
          05700

          Rock, Lw, ausgestellt

          0,560

          1
          05710

          Rock, Marine, ausgestellt

          0,560

          3
          05820

          Klapphose, dunkelblau, weibl. Soldaten

          1,950

          2
          05830

          Klapphose, weiß, weibl. Soldaten

          1,200

          9
          43000

          Hose, zivil

          4,500

          127
          44030

          Hose f. Feuerwehrpers., blau

          76,200

          143
          44040

          Hose, ziv. Wachpersonal, Hundeführer, grau

          85,800

          1
          44050

          Hose, Flugbegleiterinnen

          0,560

          62
          44060

          Hose, ziv. Wachpersonal, grau

          34,720

          Its a 6.000 kg lot containing only trousers ... first chiffre is the number, then a code, the descriction of the item and as last the weight of the partial lot in kg. You can see that there are at least 350 Steghosen of the GJ but only very few trousers / skirts for female personell...

          Regards,

          Jens

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