The Bundeswehr M1 Helmet

[Bernhard]

Here are some pics of a 1962 dated M1A1 helmet with the old style netting ( I just was lucky enough to find another one of these first type nets ):

[Bernhard]

Last one !

Hope ( as ever ) that you like it !

Regards

Bernhard

[Guardian 5]

Bernhard - great pictures and information!

Thanks! - TJ

[Bernhard]

Fellow collectors ,

I was able to add something new to my Bundeswehr helmet collection.
As I wrote in the beginning of this thread the Bundeswehr M1 helmet shell was made by two different manufacturers , one being the well known
"Quist" maker from Esslingen and the other the firm of "Linnemann und Schnetzer" from Ahlen,Germany.

After a real long wait I was able to add two of these LS made helmets to my collection.
The first one I got had almost all of the original color but showed heavy denting because of the low quality steel they were made of.
The second one I am going to show you is an undented one from 1958.

From my observation the number of LS made M1 helmet shells seems to be far less than the M1 made by Quist.

Here a pic of the complete 1958 made LS helmet:

[Bernhard]

The maker had to stamp the shells with it`s initials , town , year and rate.
Here you can see :

L-S.A.1958,2

Linnemann und Schnetzer , Ahlen , 1958 second rate delivered :

[Bernhard]

Another LS , this time 15th rate delivered.

[Bernhard]

Stamping in the shell :

[Bernhard]

To my great pleasure this shell came with a nice liner from a maker that I
did not have in my collection before.
This time we have a nice `56 dated H.R.N one.
Maker is "Hans Römer Neu Ulm"


Hope you like it !!

Regards

Bernhard

[Gordon Craig]

Bernhard,

A good addition to this great reference thread.

Regards,

Gordon

[Bernhard]

Fellow collectors ,

While doing a search on the web to get some information on the french M51 OTAN helmet I stumbled across a very well made french helmet site.

I really think that the site is very well worth a visit for all collectors visiting this thread.
You will find v e r y good information on the Bundeswehr helmets.

Have a look here :http://www.world-war-helmets.com/fic...-Modell-56.php

Enjoy !

Regards

Bernhard

[michelwijnand]

my helmets

here are my BW helmets minus one, sorry for the unclear pictures:

M60 type 1, M60 type 2 and M60/85

M60 type 1, M60 type 2 and M60/85 again

FJ58(with Amöben cover), M85 (with Fleck cover), M62 (with Amöben cover and net), M56 inner helmet (Plastiekhelm :P)

Kevlar helmet (with Bollé dust goggles and Wüstentarn cover with IR reflecting tape on the back), M62/85

Kevlar helmet (with Bollé dust goggles and Wüstentarn cover with IR reflecting tape on the back), M62/85

The kevlarhelmet is named and has a few blooddrops in it, I bought it from the original owner along with his (blood covered) desert boots, so it seems he did survive whatever happened to him.
There are still versions that I don't have, does anyone know details about which ones?

Cheers,
Michel

[Bernhard]

Very nice helmets !!
Thank´s for showing Michel.

Regards

Bernhard

[fenix]

Hi fellows.

I own in my collection this example of german M-1 helmet.
The shell have the same type of mobile bales (hinged loops) than you've posted at 03-25-2008, 02:20 PM , post #7, Bernhard, with the three soldering points and the side rounded over and very squashed, with the small notch in the right side.
No markings inside.
But the chin strap has The T1 type steel chinstrap fasteners attached instead of being sewn to the loops. No markings on it, either.










The liner was manufactured by Schuberth Werke. It has on it the markings "I SW" in a circle, and two circle more, one of them empty and the other one with the number "77".
Also it have that I mean seems a 62 number ink-stamped on it.
But (again) the nape strap bore two pairs of male snap fasteners without adjustable buckle, like US M-1 1941-44 period, instead of being sewn to the neck band.








I've bought here in Spain this helmet.
It's little known the history of Spanish M1 helmets. Following the agreements of 1953 with the American Government, Spain began receiving American aid through the Marshall Plan, including military equipment. A portion were M-1 helmets, from deposits of Germany. It cames M-1 from the period of the Second G.M. and M-1 A1.
The liners were originally American (Westinghouse from 1951-54 period, not Micarta Division) and German with the markings I SW or II SW inside the circle. The shells were all McCord or Schlueter.
Well... ¿could this helmet be part of the american contracts with Schuberth as "uscob" said in 2009 ("I can say that the 6941 Guard Bn. U.S.Army Berlin used German made Helmets. maybe I have some left in my collection. Must check this.").
Hand painted numbers on it are very common in the Spanish army in the years 70-90, but the color is not spanish. It means US army.

Thanks for your answers.
Best regards,
Félix.

[Collectinsteve]

Hello Félix!

Very interesting helmet. I don't have much information to give about this, other than the BW stopped using this style in the late 1950s.

Are you sure about the paint color? I have a large collection of Spanish military items from 1950s through today and I am sure I have some 1960s items with yellow stenciled numbers on them. Numbers like this were not usual on US helmets. Also, the US Army uses white paint, not yellow, as far as I know.

Steve

[fenix]

Hello Félix!

Very interesting helmet. I don't have much information to give about this, other than the BW stopped using this style in the late 1950s.

Are you sure about the paint color? I have a large collection of Spanish military items from 1950s through today and I am sure I have some 1960s items with yellow stenciled numbers on them. Numbers like this were not usual on US helmets. Also, the US Army uses white paint, not yellow, as far as I know.

Steve

Many thanks, Steve.

Yes, I own over 140 spanish helmets from 1930s to today (I'm with the cleaning and restoration of four Marte 04-97/99 and 01 from Infanteria de Marina -Marines- now) and this yellow and red stenciled numbers were common in M-1 helmets here in Spain.

I think this helmet could arrived here with the American aid and be used in the spanish army, perhaps Infanteria de Marina, by its affinity with the doctrine and material of U.S. Marines.
But with all US M-1 spec., with the differences that I told vs. german helmets. The green color of the shell is also more similar to the American helmet than the Spanish one.
But everything is supposition on my part, like almost everything about Spanish helmets to Marte model.

Thanks again and best regards

Félix.