Ok troops,
So i got this 1943 dated british made BD off a Collector in the states who recently got it of a collector in Canada who had it 15 years after the first sale out of the wood work from the UK with some work. This man is confirmed in the rank and being from the UK, not a native of Newfoundland, confirmed on the rolls for North Africa and Italy etc, no problems there. According to the original seller he has been over it with the UV light and not found anything bad anywhere. I have not had it in hand, yet, to look at. It came right out of the UK about 15 years ago and at first only the Medals and papers were for sale. The original seller said that he had got this Tunic during buying the rest as it was going to be split up, and actually the BD wasn't even for sale. The seller who got it in the UK at some point out of the woodwork was a coin and stamp collector but otherwise non collector. Now, i am not a BD collector as such so i would appreciate your thoughts. No questions return is ok so i am not worried there.
My thoughts:
1) The Rank, Red/Blue strip, and corps badge seem to me to be mounted weird. But I have also found examples of what looks like tropical rank being worn on Regt photos, as well as the Double flashes and landyard but this appears to be walking out dress and there are no other badges than the red and blue strip then in those photos, however some photos such as one of my uncle you can see the side of a 2nd army corps badge or earlier photos of other Soldiers show a clear oak ash and thorn badge (12th corps?). However in combat photos you see Flashes, corps insignia, or not, and ranks, with cloth cannons. Mostly on the ranks you see only the Newfoundland flash in Combat and no extra Flash for RA or other. I found one photo of a Sgt wearing the rank low like this. Normally the rank should be a lot higher and the badges a bit bunched up from what i see in photos. If you are a Sgt, you wouldn't want to wear your rank in a mess and different then other Sgts and the dress regs for insignia, however non textbook doesn't always mean bad. I have also not seen it up close as regards to the stitching, the flashes and Corps badge look hand stitched but the blue and red strip look machine stitched from this photo, and the rank again hand stitched but looks to be different thread?Just my thoughts there.
Theres a guy wearing the stripes low....but a single instance amongst all wearing them correct.
http://ngb.chebucto.org/NFREG/<wbr>WWII/ww2-166-regt-target45.<wbr>shtml
Everybody else wears the red and blue bar in one with the pocket top and any div badge above that all bunched up.
http://ngb.chebucto.org/NFREG/<wbr>WWII/ww2-166-regt-target145.<wbr>shtml
http://ngb.chebucto.org/NFREG/WWII/w...arget102.shtml
http://ngb.chebucto.org/NFREG/WWII/w...arget123.shtml
2) Without looking further or talking to vets who knew the man and were with this Regt to find out more, it looks to me like what i will possibly find is that the shoulder tabs are original and the red and blue strip has been moved so somebody could attached the loose badges cloth and metal in his estate, or, maybe they are all original.
3) Even if only the Nfld and RA flashes are original to the tunic, as in "untouched" I will still be quite happy.
?
Kind Regards,
Pete
So i got this 1943 dated british made BD off a Collector in the states who recently got it of a collector in Canada who had it 15 years after the first sale out of the wood work from the UK with some work. This man is confirmed in the rank and being from the UK, not a native of Newfoundland, confirmed on the rolls for North Africa and Italy etc, no problems there. According to the original seller he has been over it with the UV light and not found anything bad anywhere. I have not had it in hand, yet, to look at. It came right out of the UK about 15 years ago and at first only the Medals and papers were for sale. The original seller said that he had got this Tunic during buying the rest as it was going to be split up, and actually the BD wasn't even for sale. The seller who got it in the UK at some point out of the woodwork was a coin and stamp collector but otherwise non collector. Now, i am not a BD collector as such so i would appreciate your thoughts. No questions return is ok so i am not worried there.
My thoughts:
1) The Rank, Red/Blue strip, and corps badge seem to me to be mounted weird. But I have also found examples of what looks like tropical rank being worn on Regt photos, as well as the Double flashes and landyard but this appears to be walking out dress and there are no other badges than the red and blue strip then in those photos, however some photos such as one of my uncle you can see the side of a 2nd army corps badge or earlier photos of other Soldiers show a clear oak ash and thorn badge (12th corps?). However in combat photos you see Flashes, corps insignia, or not, and ranks, with cloth cannons. Mostly on the ranks you see only the Newfoundland flash in Combat and no extra Flash for RA or other. I found one photo of a Sgt wearing the rank low like this. Normally the rank should be a lot higher and the badges a bit bunched up from what i see in photos. If you are a Sgt, you wouldn't want to wear your rank in a mess and different then other Sgts and the dress regs for insignia, however non textbook doesn't always mean bad. I have also not seen it up close as regards to the stitching, the flashes and Corps badge look hand stitched but the blue and red strip look machine stitched from this photo, and the rank again hand stitched but looks to be different thread?Just my thoughts there.
Theres a guy wearing the stripes low....but a single instance amongst all wearing them correct.
http://ngb.chebucto.org/NFREG/<wbr>WWII/ww2-166-regt-target45.<wbr>shtml
Everybody else wears the red and blue bar in one with the pocket top and any div badge above that all bunched up.
http://ngb.chebucto.org/NFREG/<wbr>WWII/ww2-166-regt-target145.<wbr>shtml
http://ngb.chebucto.org/NFREG/WWII/w...arget102.shtml
http://ngb.chebucto.org/NFREG/WWII/w...arget123.shtml
2) Without looking further or talking to vets who knew the man and were with this Regt to find out more, it looks to me like what i will possibly find is that the shoulder tabs are original and the red and blue strip has been moved so somebody could attached the loose badges cloth and metal in his estate, or, maybe they are all original.
3) Even if only the Nfld and RA flashes are original to the tunic, as in "untouched" I will still be quite happy.
?
Kind Regards,
Pete
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