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    #76
    Other consequences that carried on for many more years after the last US ground troops left the RVN. Commands continued to deal with drug use, racial tension, base riots, desertions, you name it. A complete 180 degree turn by the early 70's from the US military of the pre VN years.

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      #77
      Another point is that the casualties and video from the Viet Nam war was shown on the evening news everyday over and over. The war in the 'Stan you would never even know has been fought for the last 16 years from the complete lack of tv coverage. It's like nobody wants to know anything about it ?
      When i grew up every kid on the block's older brother served in the 'Nam and we all expected to as well...not in todays world only a few serve, the country could care a less...

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        #78
        Originally posted by Tim O'Keefe View Post
        Another point is that the casualties and video from the Viet Nam war was shown on the evening news everyday over and over. The war in the 'Stan you would never even know has been fought for the last 16 years from the complete lack of tv coverage. It's like nobody wants to know anything about it ?
        When i grew up every kid on the block's older brother served in the 'Nam and we all expected to as well...not in todays world only a few serve, the country could care a less...
        Could be just the lack of imminent danger being felt from those we are fighting in Afghanistan.....The Taliban does not possess weapons capable of directly striking the United States...Homeland terrorism ala Al Quaeda is a possibility, but no announcements from them boasting of placing nuclear weapons onto ICBM's (ala what North Korea is moving towards)......This might explain people's apathy and subsequent lack of preoccupation....There also isn't a draft, so that's something else not looming around in their psyches....Not concerned with loved ones being forced to fight in a war....Also not sure there's enough news in that part of the world to merit such nightly coverage....Vietnam was the first televised war....Not sure even those reporting it realized how devisive the nightly televising would become...After all, it was untested and inaugural in the history of this country.....Bodes
        Last edited by bodes; 10-19-2017, 09:23 PM.

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          #79
          Fantastic series - I am half way and I think it is great - very informative and you keep asking yourself why it went on as long as it did. It does not paint a pretty picture of the various presidents involved.

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            #80
            What puzzles me is that an 18 hour documentary is comprised of 10 fifty minute episodes ?? .......

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              #81
              Originally posted by kaiserwilhelm2 View Post
              Fantastic series - I am half way and I think it is great - very informative and you keep asking yourself why it went on as long as it did. It does not paint a pretty picture of the various presidents involved.
              Unfortunately there were numerous dynamics being played out.....The sense that victory was deemed (wrongly or rightly) close at hand....The idea this country was a world power dealing with those we perhaps thought of as inferior.....Concern over potentially losing face for not following through on a commitment...Vietnam became the United State's tar baby...The more we struggled and fought, the deeper we got stuck...Bodes

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                #82
                8 episodes were 2 hours.

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                  #83
                  Originally posted by Totenhead View Post
                  What puzzles me is that an 18 hour documentary is comprised of 10 fifty minute episodes ?? .......
                  The BBC bought the cheaper, shorter, 'International' cut of the series to broadcast. The UK broadcast version is missing 8 hours of material.

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                    #84
                    Originally posted by Totenhead View Post
                    What puzzles me is that an 18 hour documentary is comprised of 10 fifty minute episodes ?? .......
                    The full 18 hours will be released as a 10 DVD Box Set on 30th October (£59 on Amazon).

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                      #85
                      Originally posted by The City Gent View Post
                      The BBC bought the cheaper, shorter, 'International' cut of the series to broadcast. The UK broadcast version is missing 8 hours of material.
                      Ah I see

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                        #86
                        Originally posted by hucks216 View Post
                        The full 18 hours will be released as a 10 DVD Box Set on 30th October (£59 on Amazon).

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                          #87
                          Great series...

                          I'm very impressed with the series. It's interesting to see the Vietnamese personal accounts and views of the conflict as well as the American civilians.
                          Highly recommend it.

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                            #88
                            To miss the full 18 is unfair lol. The word ambush comes up so many times, really sad for the troops, they did the best they could within the stupid rules of engagement.

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                              #89
                              Here in the UK I thought we were massively short changed by the BBC for the missing 8 hours.
                              In my humble opinion what we we did get to see was FAR too much of the politicians and the 'educated' anti-war shower. Sadly for my liking nowhere near enough screen time given to the lads who fought and died there. From that perspective I still think Dear America Letters Home From Vietnam takes some beating.

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                                #90
                                Loved it. Excellent production!

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