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**Killerbee** · 02-10-2015, 10:28 PM

[QUOTE=N.C. Wyeth;6798269][QUOTE=birdie;6798105] I was let down by the script, and characters. I enjoyed the tanks and cinematography.

Perhaps this is the root of all our angst - the cinematography and costumery was stimulating enough, but the script was a let-down . . . and maybe this is all the more revealing about most of us - the storyline is what we crave, over all the pomp associated with today's sophomoric commonality?

Like Don D. said - "Sorta like how Arnold ruins all the Terminator movies....." - if you aren't a Terminator kind of guy, it's likely this movie will end in disappointment for you.

Yep Wyeth, story always comes first... then cinematography (including sets) equally with music.. 50/50. Fury lacked story and direction... which screwed up the rest...

Jim

**djpool** · 02-10-2015, 11:11 PM

Heres the bottom line:

The film received positive reviews from critics and proved to be very successful at the box office grossing over $211 million.

Hollywood's about making money and Fury met all expectations. jim

**Woolgar** · 02-11-2015, 03:54 AM

Originally posted by djpool View Post

Heres the bottom line:

The film received positive reviews from critics and proved to be very successful at the box office grossing over $211 million.

Hollywood's about making money and Fury met all expectations. jim

Job done ! A successful film. Period. As measured by the cinema going world

Nick

**birdie** · 02-11-2015, 09:55 AM

stop crying

Originally posted by Woolgar View Post

Job done ! A successful film. Period. As measured by the cinema going world

Nick

Stop crying, many were disappointed in the film, get over it.. We are not going to change or minds because you say it made money. We have minds of our own. Great tanks, well filmed, weak plot, some silly battles. Nope, not gonna change my mind because you insist!

**Willi Z.** · 02-11-2015, 10:15 AM

Originally posted by Woolgar View Post

Job done ! A successful film. Period. As measured by the cinema going world

Nick

That is correct. Hollywood's only performance measure, as with most things in our society, is how much money is made. That is reality. Great scenes, based on photos I saw before the film was released, were cut out. Many, some are here on the forum, made a great effort regarding authenticity.

**Totenhead** · 02-11-2015, 06:18 PM

If we are gauging the film merely by its relative success at the box office, as previously mentioned grossing to date $211 million, Inglorious Basterds grossed $321 million for example, what does that tell us ?
The question is, would it have been similarly successful without the obsessive attention to detail, I suspect yes.

The second question therefore can only be, why did they bother?? .......

I am still looking very much forward to watching it next week, my copy is on pre-order
I really am determined to enjoy it !!

**Tim O'Keefe** · 02-12-2015, 05:58 AM

Finally saw Fury the other day. Had followed this thread up until the movie first came out, then stopped until seeing the movie, then picked up where i had left off, great stuff guys

. Couple days ago while working heard one of my co-workers sing out "Best job I ever had." Then another a little further away "Best job I ever had." So of course having just seen the movie joined in but with a lower tone "Best job i ever had." Everyone paused than laughter everywhere. All present had just seen Fury recently without knowing that anyone else had even seen it. Comments were that is was great movie and the "Dinner" scene was the most interesting. None of these guys collect WWII as far as i know though one guys father does a little. When i pointed out the flaws in the ending the crew understood but still enjoyed the movie overall.

Myself, as i went in thinking Brad Pitt not Owen Camo Man, loved the details just like everyone else here but knew it was to be a "Kill the Nazi Bastards" movie and not like BOB or SPR. Did enjoy the inside the Easy-8 scenes the awards and visor etc. And of course 131 is really just Outanding to see. That is one true veteran of Afrika. Also did note the ss attack had a recon platoon, and then a schwere platoon to provide covering fire and the assault platoon using the terrain to stay defilade for as long as possible, but then they were taking on an American Icon

I did use the brightness and contrast to lighten it up abit and that really made an improvement over the dvd as some have mentioned.
In these pc times we're lucky to even get a movie with all this great detail about WWII so sit back enjoy it for what it is, its Hollywood

**BenVK** · 02-13-2015, 03:05 PM

Every movie will have it's lovers and haters, especially war movies in a room full of military collectors!

The bottom line for me is whether there were the funds, the will and the talent to make a potentially "great" movie. I think there was in this case and that's why the end result is very disappointing. I love movies and always go along to the cinema with a lot of optimism and hope, but it's rare these days that I walk out with a sense of satisfaction. Fury has been just another movie in a long line of exciting prospects that disappointed like Prometheous, Gravity, Interseller etc etc.

There are about a dozen comments here saying well, put your money where your mouth is and make a better movie. To that I say, please just give me the money and the chance!! I would dedicate the rest of my life in trying the make the best war movie ever made and the first thing I would do is not hire any Hollywood actors!

**kammo man** · 02-13-2015, 04:28 PM

Benvik

So you have no Hollywood actors.

Would you get Bollywood actors instead ?

And make a all singing and dancing special with England's own MIA doing the soundtrack ?

Be fun they watch

0wen

**Totenhead** · 02-13-2015, 05:12 PM

Originally posted by kammo man View Post

Benvik

So you have no Hollywood actors.

Would you get Bollywood actors instead ?

And make a all singing and dancing special with England's own MIA doing the soundtrack ?

Be fun they watch

0wen

**Totenhead** · 02-13-2015, 05:14 PM

Originally posted by BenVK View Post

Every movie will have it's lovers and haters, especially war movies in a room full of military collectors!

The bottom line for me is whether there were the funds, the will and the talent to make a potentially "great" movie. I think there was in this case and that's why the end result is very disappointing. I love movies and always go along to the cinema with a lot of optimism and hope, but it's rare these days that I walk out with a sense of satisfaction. Fury has been just another movie in a long line of exciting prospects that disappointed like Prometheous, Gravity, Interseller etc etc.

There are about a dozen comments here saying well, put your money where your mouth is and make a better movie. To that I say, please just give me the money and the chance!! I would dedicate the rest of my life in trying the make the best war movie ever made and the first thing I would do is not hire any Hollywood actors!

Does anyone know what the production costs were for Fury ? Would the production costs for BOB be more or less ? To me, BOB is the benchmark for all future/contempory war movies/productions

**Hofstetter** · 02-13-2015, 08:16 PM

Originally posted by BenVK View Post

Every movie will have it's lovers and haters, especially war movies in a room full of military collectors!

The bottom line for me is whether there were the funds, the will and the talent to make a potentially "great" movie. I think there was in this case and that's why the end result is very disappointing.

I agree with this statement, there was great potential for this movie.
I think everyone would like to see a bit more realistic combat scenes whether they are military collectors or not.
I think in this day and age it's not too much to expect, I mean truly, in this respect, this has not progressed any further since I saw Vic Morrow in Combat as a kid.
Great special effects, but would it have hurt to see one of those anti tank guns take out a sherman in that first combat scene and the last scene was nothing short of pathetic.
Is the American audience that shallow/superficial whatever, that they can't handle seeing a movie where the USA doesn't kick ass with superhuman feats.
Do they want to see the German army portrayed as Idiots (as that's what happened in this movie just like all the others).

**Totenhead** · 02-13-2015, 08:30 PM

Originally posted by Hofstetter View Post

I agree with this statement, there was great potential for this movie.
I think everyone would like to see a bit more realistic combat scenes whether they are military collectors or not.
I think in this day and age it's not too much to expect, I mean truly, in this respect, this has not progressed any further since I saw Vic Morrow in Combat as a kid.
Great special effects, but would it have hurt to see one of those anti tank guns take out a sherman in that first combat scene and the last scene was nothing short of pathetic.
Is the American audience that shallow/superficial whatever, that they can't handle seeing a movie where the USA doesn't kick ass with superhuman feats.
Do they want to see the German army portrayed as Idiots (as that's what happened in this movie just like all the others).

Oh come on!

I am not watching it for the storyline or the historic value, I just want to see a bunch of re-enactors having a good time with the Hollywood clan! Ha-ha

**N.C. Wyeth** · 02-13-2015, 11:58 PM

Yes indeed - should we call this, "The Terminator Effect" . . . ????

Originally posted by Hofstetter View Post

Is the American audience that shallow/superficial whatever, that they can't handle seeing a movie where the USA doesn't kick ass with superhuman feats.
Do they want to see the German army portrayed as Idiots (as that's what happened in this movie just like all the others).

Yes to both questions, I think . . . for whatever reason you want to believe, to tell it how it really was, would likely not be received very well by the overall public. I am afraid, we who would prefer it to be so, are truly limited in both size and influence . . . and perhaps, it is this thought that offers additional justification for our overall dissatisfaction for the outcome of the film?

**BenVK** · 02-14-2015, 02:48 AM

Originally posted by kammo man View Post

Would you get Bollywood actors instead ?

Yeah, why not! I might have a better chance of understanding the dialogue that way! Not like Shia LaBeouf's mumbling drawl in Fury and Bradley Cooper's equally indecipherable accent in American Sniper.

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