Last survivor of plot to kill Hitler dies at 90

[RelicHunter]

So, they wanted peace at any price....? I dont think so. The Battle for Berlin proves the will of the German soldier to defend his land....even when all seems lost.

Are you on crack?

[RelicHunter]

are they spineless?

Yes, clearly you are.

When evil takes over, some people resist and others just follow orders. Good to know where you stand. You should be proud of yourself.

[Obersalzberg]

Yes, clearly you are.

When evil takes over, some people resist and others just follow orders. Good to know where you stand. You should be proud of yourself.

evil takes over. ....sheer Hollywood...lol...looks as though your a Tom Cruise fan.

you want to check some facts. When the plot was unravelling it was every man for himself. ..no honour there. ..von Hofaker to save his own skin implicated Rommel and all the other co conspirators ran and hid or even worse they gave up all they knew...thats why the conspiritors were so successfully and completely rounded up...they all split on each other.... so dont give me any of that sentimental guff
The plotters new their reasons for the plot could never be accepted by the people so they simply lied and proclaimed it was an SS coup against Hitler.
In the German peoples eyes there was only one hero Oberst Remer.

[Chris Boonzaier]

It was lost before it began wasn't it ? With (solders ?) Marines like me it would never have started. But when it did start we made sure to finish it. Lucky for You too What unit do/did you serve ?

I am betting none. Does reenacting as an aSS trooper.

[Chris Boonzaier]

sorry, meant ss trooper...

[RelicHunter]

evil takes over. ....sheer Hollywood...lol...looks as though your a Tom Cruise fan.

you want to check some facts. When the plot was unravelling it was every man for himself. ..no honour there. ..von Hofaker to save his own skin implicated Rommel and all the other co conspirators ran and hid or even worse they gave up all they knew...thats why the conspiritors were so successfully and completely rounded up...they all split on each other.... so dont give me any of that sentimental guff
The plotters new their reasons for the plot could never be accepted by the people so they simply lied and proclaimed it was an SS coup against Hitler.
In the German peoples eyes there was only one hero Oberst Remer.

None of this is relevant to the point. Plus, you may want to check you spelling/grammar.

[Jean-Loup]

"In the German peoples eyes there was only one hero Oberst Remer."

What the brainwashed and uninformed German people of the time thought is of little relevance.
In any case, you should avoid assuming that your personal opionions are representative of those of the "German people".

[Obersalzberg]

"In the German peoples eyes there was only one hero Oberst Remer."

What the brainwashed and uninformed German people of the time thought is of little relevance.
In any case, you should avoid assuming that your personal opionions are representative of those of the "German people".

the brainwashed and un informed German people is of little relevance. .....??

avoid assuming that your personal opinions are representative. ..?

Are you sure you want to say both of the above without contradicting yourself?

Brainwashed and un informed....?? Hollywood clichés that still sadly prevail.
your words speak volumes. Of course. ..your saying your modern day informed opinion is right and the Wartime majority of the German populace were wrong.
You can see how absurd that makes you sound.

[Chris Boonzaier]

Of course. ..your saying your modern day informed opinion is right and the Wartime majority of the German populace were wrong.
You can see how absurd that makes you sound.

hahahahahahah.... are you really serious.... you are saying the wartime German majority was right and a "modern day informed opinion" is wrong?

Do you begin to see why some non collectors see German Militaria collectors to be badly educated right wing retreads? You reflect badly on the rest of us.

When does the woodworking dude jump in to add the cherry to the cake?

[Obersalzberg]

hahahahahahah.... are you really serious.... you are saying the wartime German majority was right and a "modern day informed opinion" is wrong?

Do you begin to see why some non collectors see German Militaria collectors to be badly educated right wing retreads? You reflect badly on the rest of us.

When does the woodworking dude jump in to add the cherry to the cake?

cant you see what you say makes no sense at all...! Of course they were right because that is whar happened...a majority of people thought that way whether you like it or not.

In effect your saying that without the ability to look into the future a people are wrong to act as they do? modern day informed opinion is exactly that....an opinion.
Time travel is not yet an option for those who doubt.

if you wish to throw insults at least spell them correctly... Im not an Ersatz Dunlop. so dont be scared to say Retard.
thats all from me as im sure thread will soon be closed down.

[RelicHunter]

A majority of people thought the world was flat once too. And that it was the center of the universe. They weren't right at the time. They were ignorant. Sometimes willfully.

I don't even know how you can make such an argument with a straight face. Germany was right because a majority of people, allegedly, wanted the nazis to do what they did? Is that your point?

[Chris Boonzaier]

if you wish to throw insults at least spell them correctly... Im not an Ersatz Dunlop. so dont be scared to say Retard.

I find that really insulting for people who are mentally challenged, most of whom think more logically than you do.

I refer to you as a retread because once again I am "tired" of reading your posts.

[Obersalzberg]

I find that really insulting for people who are mentally challenged, most of whom think more logically than you do.

I refer to you as a retread because once again I am "tired" of reading your posts.

only the mentally challenged would read posts they don't want to read
over and out.

[Chris Boonzaier]

Over and out?

Over and out !?!

And you were complaining that the plotters were cowardly soldiers because they did not see the battle through to the end?

I was just getting started Adolf!

When I am 18 i am going to join the army and then i can really thumb my nose at you!

[RelicHunter]

only the mentally challenged would read posts they don't want to read
over and out.

That's funny considering you said you were done with this thread in your previous post.